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Why won't this message send to my group? I have sent things before, including a message that said "help" as the subject. I tried using "help" as a subject but it didn't go. What do you all see?
Ryan
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On 09/01/2015 10:43 AM, Ryan Anderson wrote:
I see your message.
It is archived at <https://lists.purdue.edu/pipermail/nighttrain_onelist/2015-September/000000....> which means it was processed by the list and sent out to the list members. I suspect the issue is the one described here <http://wiki.list.org/x/4030680>.
As far as messages to a list with subject "help" are concerned, if the list's administrivia attribute is set to Yes, messages that appear to be commands that should be sent to the -request address (e.g., nighttrain_onelist-request@lists.purdue.edu) will be held for approval.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 01:43:17PM -0400, Ryan Anderson wrote:
Is it a case of that wonderful gmail feature:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6588
-- "Cabbage-- the opinions of taxi drivers." (new definitions, from `I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue')

In a message of Wed, 02 Sep 2015 11:15:43 +0100, Adam McGreggor writes:
Is it a case of that wonderful gmail feature:
Gmail doesn't give android users the ability to send plain text emails.
The desktop users are supposed to be able to, but it does not work properly. As happened recently to me, let us say you are a brand new would-be python programmer who has a posted some complicated code to the list, complaining that it 'doesn't work' (give the correct answer). I read the thing and notice that you are removing elements from the list you are iterating over, and reply.
Simplified, you have this problem:
You need to make a copy of your list and iteratre over that.
Note the series of lines beginning with '>>>' Despite the fact that I sent the mail in plain text, and the gmail user is also sending mail in plain text, _Gmail reserves the right to reflow all the lines you are quoting which begin with some number of '>'._
The conversation immediately goes to utter confusion, as people can no longer paste in 'exactly what happened when I tried this at the console' any more. (Well, you can. Only flush to the margin matters, so my PS1 prompt is now ' >>>'. But all the python users on this planet should not have to change their PS1 prompts because Google just cannot leave 'plain text' alone.
But we may be at 'friends don't let friends use gmail' time, if not right now, then fairly soon. Exactly how many things can you do to break mail, Google?
Laura

On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 02:10:23PM +0200, Laura Creighton wrote:
I (a) strongly concur with this and (b) will add that this sentiment also applies to MSN/Hotmail, Yahoo, and, sadly [1], AOL.
---rsk
[1] Why "sadly"? Because some years ago Carl Hutzler and his team managed to fight an uphill battle against AOL management apathy and cluelessness, and made significant progress toward the goal of making AOL's mail service a quality operation. AOL welcomed this success by dismissing the entire team and the slide back into incompetence and negligence began almost immediately. Not that I agreed with everything Carl et.al. did, because I didn't; but I recognized that they had good intentions and they worked hard. To see all that effort discarded is appalling.

On 09/01/2015 10:43 AM, Ryan Anderson wrote:
I see your message.
It is archived at <https://lists.purdue.edu/pipermail/nighttrain_onelist/2015-September/000000....> which means it was processed by the list and sent out to the list members. I suspect the issue is the one described here <http://wiki.list.org/x/4030680>.
As far as messages to a list with subject "help" are concerned, if the list's administrivia attribute is set to Yes, messages that appear to be commands that should be sent to the -request address (e.g., nighttrain_onelist-request@lists.purdue.edu) will be held for approval.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 01:43:17PM -0400, Ryan Anderson wrote:
Is it a case of that wonderful gmail feature:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6588
-- "Cabbage-- the opinions of taxi drivers." (new definitions, from `I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue')

In a message of Wed, 02 Sep 2015 11:15:43 +0100, Adam McGreggor writes:
Is it a case of that wonderful gmail feature:
Gmail doesn't give android users the ability to send plain text emails.
The desktop users are supposed to be able to, but it does not work properly. As happened recently to me, let us say you are a brand new would-be python programmer who has a posted some complicated code to the list, complaining that it 'doesn't work' (give the correct answer). I read the thing and notice that you are removing elements from the list you are iterating over, and reply.
Simplified, you have this problem:
You need to make a copy of your list and iteratre over that.
Note the series of lines beginning with '>>>' Despite the fact that I sent the mail in plain text, and the gmail user is also sending mail in plain text, _Gmail reserves the right to reflow all the lines you are quoting which begin with some number of '>'._
The conversation immediately goes to utter confusion, as people can no longer paste in 'exactly what happened when I tried this at the console' any more. (Well, you can. Only flush to the margin matters, so my PS1 prompt is now ' >>>'. But all the python users on this planet should not have to change their PS1 prompts because Google just cannot leave 'plain text' alone.
But we may be at 'friends don't let friends use gmail' time, if not right now, then fairly soon. Exactly how many things can you do to break mail, Google?
Laura

On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 02:10:23PM +0200, Laura Creighton wrote:
I (a) strongly concur with this and (b) will add that this sentiment also applies to MSN/Hotmail, Yahoo, and, sadly [1], AOL.
---rsk
[1] Why "sadly"? Because some years ago Carl Hutzler and his team managed to fight an uphill battle against AOL management apathy and cluelessness, and made significant progress toward the goal of making AOL's mail service a quality operation. AOL welcomed this success by dismissing the entire team and the slide back into incompetence and negligence began almost immediately. Not that I agreed with everything Carl et.al. did, because I didn't; but I recognized that they had good intentions and they worked hard. To see all that effort discarded is appalling.
participants (5)
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Adam McGreggor
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Laura Creighton
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Mark Sapiro
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Rich Kulawiec
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Ryan Anderson