At first this wasn't consistently happening but now it is. History: Upgraded Apache using the instructions at StepWise, with a little assistance from another site I've forgotten. Apache itself seems to be quite stable and is hosting three domains. Installed current stable release of Postfix per directions on StepWise, everything seems to be running smoothly (procmail is local delivery agent, if that makes any difference). Followed suggestion of waterknot1@mac.com on 05 August 2001 and modified ownership of admin, admindb, listinfo and subscribe scripts to www:mailman, to help prevent the quite-annoying permission denied errors. Followed Apple TIL to avoid CGI POST errors (apache is manually started using apachectl instead of StartupItems). Attempt to log in to administer a test list: http://www.fates.net/mailman/admin/mrsgale-test; enter password, get error: "Bug in Mailman version 2.0.6 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs." Traceback from ~mailman/logs/error: Sep 04 11:22:11 2001 admin(6533): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(6533): [----- Mailman Version: 2.0.6 -----] admin(6533): [----- Traceback ------] admin(6533): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(6533): File "/users/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main admin(6533): main() admin(6533): File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 83, in main admin(6533): cgidata = cgi.FieldStorage(keep_blank_values=1) admin(6533): File "/users/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/cgi.py", line 503, in __in it__ admin(6533): self.read_urlencoded() admin(6533): File "/users/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/cgi.py", line 575, in read _urlencoded admin(6533): qs = self.fp.read(self.length) admin(6533): IOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor admin(6533): [----- Python Information -----] admin(6533): sys.version = 2.1 (#4, 05/17/01, 18:34:21) [GCC Apple DevKit-based CPP 6.0alpha] admin(6533): sys.executable = /usr/local/bin/python admin(6533): sys.prefix = /usr/local admin(6533): sys.exec_prefix= /usr/local admin(6533): sys.path = /usr/local admin(6533): sys.platform = darwin1 admin(6533): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(6533): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /Volumes/Storage/Web Domains/Fates.net admin(6533): SERVER_ADDR: 209.9.63.99 admin(6533): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip admin(6533): CONTENT_LENGTH: 16 admin(6533): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(6533): PATH_TRANSLATED: /Volumes/Storage/Web Domains/Fates.net/mrsgale- test admin(6533): REMOTE_ADDR: 209.9.63.100 admin(6533): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.20 (Darwin) PHP/4.0.6 DAV/1.0.2 admin(6533): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(6533): __CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING: 0x46:0:0 admin(6533): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en, de, fr, nl, it, ja, es admin(6533): REMOTE_PORT: 50633 admin(6533): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(6533): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive admin(6533): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; OmniWeb/4.0.5; Mac_Pow erPC) admin(6533): HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: utf-8, iso-10646-ucs-2, iso-8859-1, macinto sh, windows-1252, * admin(6533): HTTP_ACCEPT: application/futuresplash, application/rtf, applicat ion/sdp, application/x-itool, application/x-rtsp, application/x-shockwave-flash, audio/basic, audio/mpeg, audio/vnd.qcelp, audio/wav, audio/x-aiff, audio/x-midi , image/gif, image/jpeg, image/pict, image/png, image/tiff, image/x-macpaint, im age/x-photoshop, image/x-quicktime, image/x-targa, image/x-xbitmap, image/xbm, t ext/html, text/plain, video/flc, video/quicktime, video/x-msvideo, */* admin(6533): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admin/mrsgale-test admin(6533): QUERY_STRING: admin(6533): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(6533): PATH_INFO: /mrsgale-test admin(6533): HTTP_HOST: www.fates.net admin(6533): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(6533): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.20 Server at fates.net Por t 80</ADDRESS> admin(6533): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admin admin(6533): SERVER_ADMIN: atropos@fates.net admin(6533): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /users/mailman/cgi-bin/admin admin(6533): PYTHONPATH: /users/mailman admin(6533): HTTP_REFERER: http://www.fates.net/mailman/admin/mrsgale-test admin(6533): HTTP_PRAGMA: no-cache admin(6533): SERVER_NAME: fates.net The "bad file descriptor" has me concerned, but aside from that... anyone have any suggestions? -- David B. O'Donnell - atropos@fates.org - www.fates.org Help rescue cats in need: Fancy Cats Rescue Team, www.fancycats.org