Re: [Mailman-Users] user unsubscribe
On 2 Nov 2019 at 21:23, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 11/2/19 5:03 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
... Here's the message i got.. no reason why:
Subject: NPL-Folk unsubscribe notification From: mailman-bounces@lists.puzzlers.org To: npl-folk-owner@lists.puzzlers.org Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 22:24:21 -0700 Sender: "NPL-Folk" <mailman-bounces@lists.puzzlers.org>
deartom@hotmail.com has been removed from NPL-Folk.
This is the generic unsubscribe notification from the list's .ApprovedDeleteMember method. Starting with Mailman 2.1.27, it also reported the source of the unsubscribe. The source is reported in the entry in Mailman's subscribe log if you have access to that.
Nope. I have no access to that and I just got another "has been removed" message this morning. Is there any way for a non-privileged mailman admin to figure out why? I didn't get any "bounce score incremented" messages for either unsubscribe.
/Bernie\
Bernie Cosell
bernie@fantasyfarm.com
-- Too many people; too few sheep --
On 11/3/19 6:05 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
On 2 Nov 2019 at 21:23, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 11/2/19 5:03 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
... Here's the message i got.. no reason why:
Subject: NPL-Folk unsubscribe notification From: mailman-bounces@lists.puzzlers.org To: npl-folk-owner@lists.puzzlers.org Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 22:24:21 -0700 Sender: "NPL-Folk" <mailman-bounces@lists.puzzlers.org>
deartom@hotmail.com has been removed from NPL-Folk.
This is the generic unsubscribe notification from the list's .ApprovedDeleteMember method. Starting with Mailman 2.1.27, it also reported the source of the unsubscribe. The source is reported in the entry in Mailman's subscribe log if you have access to that. Nope. I have no access to that and I just got another "has been removed" message this morning. Is there any way for a non-privileged mailman admin to figure out why? I didn't get any "bounce score incremented" messages for either unsubscribe.
/Bernie\
Bernie Cosell bernie@fantasyfarm.com
-- Too many people; too few sheep --
Its possible that your hosting service has disabled the option to require approval to unsubscribe
-- Richard Damon
On 11/3/19 7:08 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/3/19 6:05 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
On 2 Nov 2019 at 21:23, Mark Sapiro wrote:
... Here's the message i got.. no reason why:
Subject: NPL-Folk unsubscribe notification From: mailman-bounces@lists.puzzlers.org To: npl-folk-owner@lists.puzzlers.org Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 22:24:21 -0700 Sender: "NPL-Folk" <mailman-bounces@lists.puzzlers.org>
deartom@hotmail.com has been removed from NPL-Folk. This is the generic unsubscribe notification from the list's .ApprovedDeleteMember method. Starting with Mailman 2.1.27, it also reported the source of the unsubscribe. The source is reported in the entry in Mailman's subscribe log if you have access to that. Nope. I have no access to that and I just got another "has been removed" message this morning. Is there any way for a non-privileged mailman admin to
On 11/2/19 5:03 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote: figure out why? I didn't get any "bounce score incremented" messages for either unsubscribe.
/Bernie\
Bernie Cosell bernie@fantasyfarm.com
-- Too many people; too few sheep --
Its possible that your hosting service has disabled the option to require approval to unsubscribe
Hi Bernie,
Did you check to see if notifications were enabled on your bounce processing page? You can contact your hosting provider to have them look into their mail logs to see why those email addresses are bouncing list messages.
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On 3 Nov 2019 at 8:10, Brian Carpenter wrote:
Did you check to see if notifications were enabled on your bounce processing page? You can contact your hosting provider to have them look into their mail logs to see why those email addresses are bouncing list messages.
Yup -- I have it set to notify me when the bounce-score is incremented and I know that I get a different message when the bounce score hits its limit.
I doubt I'll get any help from the hosting provider. But I can ask. They handle thousands of email lists and judging by how out of date their version of mailman is, prolly not very expert in the python/logs stuff... we'll see...
Thanks! /bernie
Bernie Cosell
bernie@fantasyfarm.com
-- Too many people; too few sheep --
On 11/3/19 3:05 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
Nope. I have no access to that and I just got another "has been removed" message this morning. Is there any way for a non-privileged mailman admin to figure out why? I didn't get any "bounce score incremented" messages for either unsubscribe.
What is the time stamp on these unsubscribe notices?
Also, if the users are being unsubscribed by bounce processing, and assuming you have default settings for bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings (3) and bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval (7), any bounce score incremented or delivery disabled notice would have been at least 3 weeks earlier.
You might be able to get your hosting provider to provide the log messages from Mailman's subscribe log. They will be of the form
<time stamp> (pid) <list name>: deleted <user's email>; <source>
where <time stamp> is the same as the time of the unsubscribe notice.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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Bernie Cosell
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Brian Carpenter
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Mark Sapiro
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Richard Damon