-----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Syn, Joonho Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:53 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] one line command to change generic_nonmember_action

I'm writing a simplified mailman dashboard page for my company's internal use and one of the functions we want is to be able to toggle the generic_nonmember_action for any given list. Has anyone out there devised a one line command which will allow this?

Hi,

I'm not sure if there is a direct command that can do this but I've been doing something similar lately. I had a setup of 20+ mailing lists which had to be identical in a specialised configuration. Doing that by the web interface filled me with dread so I started looking around and found the mailman utility 'bin/config_list'.

This brilliant (imnsho!) utility allows you to either dump out a list's configuration in plain text or read in a list's configuration, again in plain text.

Let's see you have a list called SomeList. You can dump out the entire configuration (not the members list, just the list's functional settings) by typing:

cd ~mailman bin/config_list -o - SomeList

This will dump to screen ( -o - ) the configuration of SomeList.

It's just a minor logical step to do

bin/config_list -o /usr/tmp/somelist-conf.txt SomeList

Which dumps the config into a file /usr/tmp/somelist-conf.txt

If you were to look at that file you'd find a section like this:

====== # When a post from a non-member is received, the message's sender is # matched against the list of explicitly <a # href="?VARHELP=privacy/sender/accept_these_nonmembers" >accepted, # held, <a href="?VARHELP=privacy/sender/reject_these_nonmembers" # >rejected (bounced), and <a # href="?VARHELP=privacy/sender/discard_these_nonmembers" >discarded # addresses. If no match is found, then this action is taken. # # legal values are: # 0 = "Accept" # 1 = "Hold" # 2 = "Reject" # 3 = "Discard" generic_nonmember_action = 1

You could either replace the value at the end of the line, or just swap in a whole new line.

Then save the text file and read the configuration BACK to the list:

bin/config_list -i /usr/tmp/somelist-conf.txt SomeList

Note the change from '-o' (output) to '-i' (input).

It would be easily possible to pipe these commands together, maybe using sed as the output=>input parser.

So something like,

bin/config_list -o - SomeList | /usr/bin/sed -f swapscript - |

bin/config_list -i - SomeList

Where 'swapscript' is a simple script to detect the "generic_nonmember_action = 1" line and change it as you want.

Of course there's probably a simpler/better way of doing this but it should work.

Regards, S Watkins

Steff Watkins Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD Systems programmer Email: s.watkins@nhm.ac.uk Systems Team Phone: +44 (0)20 7942 6000 opt 2

Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans. - HHGTTG

Syn, Joonho wrote:

I'm writing a simplified mailman dashboard page for my company's internal use and one of the functions we want is to be able to toggle the generic_nonmember_action for any given list. Has anyone out there devised a one line command which will allow this?

See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/uIA9>.

-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

-----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Syn, Joonho Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:53 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] one line command to change generic_nonmember_action

I'm writing a simplified mailman dashboard page for my company's internal use and one of the functions we want is to be able to toggle the generic_nonmember_action for any given list. Has anyone out there devised a one line command which will allow this?

Hi,

I'm not sure if there is a direct command that can do this but I've been doing something similar lately. I had a setup of 20+ mailing lists which had to be identical in a specialised configuration. Doing that by the web interface filled me with dread so I started looking around and found the mailman utility 'bin/config_list'.

This brilliant (imnsho!) utility allows you to either dump out a list's configuration in plain text or read in a list's configuration, again in plain text.

Let's see you have a list called SomeList. You can dump out the entire configuration (not the members list, just the list's functional settings) by typing:

cd ~mailman bin/config_list -o - SomeList

This will dump to screen ( -o - ) the configuration of SomeList.

It's just a minor logical step to do

bin/config_list -o /usr/tmp/somelist-conf.txt SomeList

Which dumps the config into a file /usr/tmp/somelist-conf.txt

If you were to look at that file you'd find a section like this:

====== # When a post from a non-member is received, the message's sender is # matched against the list of explicitly <a # href="?VARHELP=privacy/sender/accept_these_nonmembers" >accepted, # held, <a href="?VARHELP=privacy/sender/reject_these_nonmembers" # >rejected (bounced), and <a # href="?VARHELP=privacy/sender/discard_these_nonmembers" >discarded # addresses. If no match is found, then this action is taken. # # legal values are: # 0 = "Accept" # 1 = "Hold" # 2 = "Reject" # 3 = "Discard" generic_nonmember_action = 1

You could either replace the value at the end of the line, or just swap in a whole new line.

Then save the text file and read the configuration BACK to the list:

bin/config_list -i /usr/tmp/somelist-conf.txt SomeList

Note the change from '-o' (output) to '-i' (input).

It would be easily possible to pipe these commands together, maybe using sed as the output=>input parser.

So something like,

bin/config_list -o - SomeList | /usr/bin/sed -f swapscript - |

bin/config_list -i - SomeList

Where 'swapscript' is a simple script to detect the "generic_nonmember_action = 1" line and change it as you want.

Of course there's probably a simpler/better way of doing this but it should work.

Regards, S Watkins

Steff Watkins Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD Systems programmer Email: s.watkins@nhm.ac.uk Systems Team Phone: +44 (0)20 7942 6000 opt 2

Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans. - HHGTTG

Syn, Joonho wrote:

I'm writing a simplified mailman dashboard page for my company's internal use and one of the functions we want is to be able to toggle the generic_nonmember_action for any given list. Has anyone out there devised a one line command which will allow this?

See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/uIA9>.

-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan