How to change the creation of a new list email from the through-the-web interface?
We are planning to implement spam blocking as I found in some postings on the net.
Presenty, when we create a new list it sends an email of the form
The mailing list xyz' has been created via the through-the-web interface. In order to complete the activation of this mailing list, the proper /etc/aliases (or equivalent) file must be updated. The program newaliases' may also have to be run.
Here are the entries for the /etc/aliases file:
xyz: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman post xyz" xyz-admin: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman admin xyz" xyz-bounces: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman bounces xyz" xyz-confirm: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman confirm xyz" xyz-join: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman join xyz" xyz-leave: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman leave xyz" xyz-owner: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman owner xyz" xyz-request: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman request xyz" xyz-subscribe: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe xyz" xyz-unsubscribe: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe xyz"
However, if we are implementing spam processing (I I understand things properly) then we really need the above lines created to be
xyz: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc post xyz" xyz-admin: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc admin xyz" xyz-bounces: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc bounces xyz" xyz-confirm: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc confirm xyz" xyz-join: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc join xyz" xyz-leave: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc leave xyz" xyz-owner: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc owner xyz" xyz-request: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc request xyz" xyz-subscribe: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc subscribe xyz" xyz-unsubscribe: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc unsubscribe xyz"
Otherwise it will be necessary to process the aliases entries in some way, which I would like to avoid. Can that be automated so it generates the proper lines in the email output?
Thanks,
paulw
Whatever you do, DON'T implement your anti-spam system inside of a
tool like procmail.
If you're going to implement any kind of anti-spam system, make sure
to implement that only within your MTA (sendmail, postfix, Exim,
whatever). Make sure that you don't ever accept a message and then try
to bounce it --that's called "backscatter" and makes you as bad as the
spammer, and will probably result in your legitimate system being put
on one or more blacklists.
-- Brad Knowles <brad@shub-Internet.org>
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2007, at 10:51 AM, "Williams, Paul" <paul.williams@uwex.edu>
wrote:
Brad Knowles wrote:
Brad's point is right on, however, in some cases it is OK to implement an anti-spam solution in procmail or something similar as long as you don't reject the mail, but just silently discard it or flag it for the recipient.
It is always best to detect the spam in the incoming MTA and issue a failure response in the incoming SMTP dialog. This is the only way the failure wil be seen by the actual sender.
See below for the original question.
This can be done by editing the code in the _makealiases_mailprog function in Mailman/MTA/Utils.py.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Whatever you do, DON'T implement your anti-spam system inside of a
tool like procmail.
If you're going to implement any kind of anti-spam system, make sure
to implement that only within your MTA (sendmail, postfix, Exim,
whatever). Make sure that you don't ever accept a message and then try
to bounce it --that's called "backscatter" and makes you as bad as the
spammer, and will probably result in your legitimate system being put
on one or more blacklists.
-- Brad Knowles <brad@shub-Internet.org>
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2007, at 10:51 AM, "Williams, Paul" <paul.williams@uwex.edu>
wrote:
Brad Knowles wrote:
Brad's point is right on, however, in some cases it is OK to implement an anti-spam solution in procmail or something similar as long as you don't reject the mail, but just silently discard it or flag it for the recipient.
It is always best to detect the spam in the incoming MTA and issue a failure response in the incoming SMTP dialog. This is the only way the failure wil be seen by the actual sender.
See below for the original question.
This can be done by editing the code in the _makealiases_mailprog function in Mailman/MTA/Utils.py.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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