
Hi, There is a "umbrella_list" setting in the "General Options" for my lists but I'm not sure how I'm supposed to setup the umbrella list to allow posting from people who are on the sub lists. Has someone written an explanation of this procedure? Thanks, Lonnie.

On 11/30/06, Lonnie Norton <lonnie@norton.utah.edu> wrote:
There is a patch available that will allow you to reference other lists' memberships in the accept_these_nonmembers field. The 'umbrella_list' setting is really just an accessory, which redirects notifications (e.g., periodic password notifications) to sublist-owner instead of just sublist (in which case everyone on the sublist would see sublist's password! Oops!).
The patch, I believe, is here: <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1220144&group_id=103&atid=300103>
Additionally, each sublist either needs 'require_explicit_destination' set to 'No,' or the address of the umbrella list added to 'acceptable_aliases'.
There may be something I'm missing, but I think that's everything.
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- Patrick Bogen

Patrick Bogen wrote:
The patch, I believe, is here: <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1220144&group_id=103&atid=300103>
And I just added a comment to the tracker item that the patch applies without change to Mailman 2.1.9.
And sublist-a may require @sublist-b in it's accept_these_nonmembers and so forth, although this can often be avoided by adding the umbrella-bounces address as a member with delivery disabled on each sublist.
Adding the umbrella-bounces address to the sublist's accept_these_nonmembers is not the same, and generally won't work unless USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER is Yes in mm_cfg.py.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

Lonnie Norton skrev:
Hi,
Hi Lonnie,
I just have fresh experiences with this problem. In my case there were some listmoderators that should be allowed to post to all members in all lists that was in the umbrella list constellation. They had to be members in all lists, and have the moderation bit unchecked. For all ordinary members, the moderation bit should remain checked.
Do you follow?
Best regards, Ann-Louise Augustsson Chalmers University of Technology IT Service/Department of Systems Operation

On 11/30/06, Lonnie Norton <lonnie@norton.utah.edu> wrote:
There is a patch available that will allow you to reference other lists' memberships in the accept_these_nonmembers field. The 'umbrella_list' setting is really just an accessory, which redirects notifications (e.g., periodic password notifications) to sublist-owner instead of just sublist (in which case everyone on the sublist would see sublist's password! Oops!).
The patch, I believe, is here: <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1220144&group_id=103&atid=300103>
Additionally, each sublist either needs 'require_explicit_destination' set to 'No,' or the address of the umbrella list added to 'acceptable_aliases'.
There may be something I'm missing, but I think that's everything.
--
- Patrick Bogen

Patrick Bogen wrote:
The patch, I believe, is here: <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1220144&group_id=103&atid=300103>
And I just added a comment to the tracker item that the patch applies without change to Mailman 2.1.9.
And sublist-a may require @sublist-b in it's accept_these_nonmembers and so forth, although this can often be avoided by adding the umbrella-bounces address as a member with delivery disabled on each sublist.
Adding the umbrella-bounces address to the sublist's accept_these_nonmembers is not the same, and generally won't work unless USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER is Yes in mm_cfg.py.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

Lonnie Norton skrev:
Hi,
Hi Lonnie,
I just have fresh experiences with this problem. In my case there were some listmoderators that should be allowed to post to all members in all lists that was in the umbrella list constellation. They had to be members in all lists, and have the moderation bit unchecked. For all ordinary members, the moderation bit should remain checked.
Do you follow?
Best regards, Ann-Louise Augustsson Chalmers University of Technology IT Service/Department of Systems Operation
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