and, if you are using spf, you need to fix your mail servers. if you 'transparently' forward without changing 'from' address, you get stuff like this.

(because, your forwarded does NOT have permission to send on behalf of 'secnap.net')

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Return-path: <scheidell@secnap.net> Received: from mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net ([204.89.241.253]) by a2s44.a2hosting.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <scheidell@secnap.net>) id 1NIOOW-00043m-L0 for tom@comconmedia.com; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:24:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net [204.89.241.253]) by mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336EA2B7CB0; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:23:59 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=secnap.net; h= content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:references:subject:subject :mime-version:user-agent:from:from:date:date:message-id; s=dkim; t=1260372238; x=1262186638; bh=mraOc+S+h6T7UDPoNJJrXGnh7FOuIqri csPSueb6nFw=; b=VYpTsIQQQytdBsYEL9RQH5Sw5yfWcdw1vGJ0Gw6/roHCDikA uWGeu/1MjT0YpR8F+Oi3WYadRaX+jsjwOioQY90S8xZgxbmKpgkVCGtIEp12g+Lj wKwIj0ArnPHVEiRWMAgcq+Y5olDxTUZU0abyCvWkUZrITP8lYGkk8l4hjow= X-Amavis-Modified: Mail body modified (using disclaimer) - mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net X-Virus-Scanned: SpammerTrap(r) VPS-1500 2.08 at mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net Received: from secnap3.secnap.com (secnap3.secnap.com [204.89.241.130]) by mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687982B7C6D; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:23:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Macintosh.local ([10.70.3.3]) by secnap3.secnap.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:23:58 -0500 Message-ID: <4B1FC10E.6010807@secnap.net> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:23:58 -0500 From: Michael Scheidell <scheidell@secnap.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TomSherlock <tom@comconmedia.com> CC: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Member unable to post to list References: <PC195200912090720180296963be6fa@msapiro> In-Reply-To: <PC195200912090720180296963be6fa@msapiro> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080100040103070106040404" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2009 15:23:58.0172 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0A779C0:01CA78E3]

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Mark Sapiro wrote:

TomSherlock wrote:

...

With Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 I received the following message for a message posted by a member of the list:

"Post by non-member to a members-only list"

Any ideas?

user should subscribe, once per email 'variation', and set all but one of the addresses to 'I don't want email'.

The address the poster sent the message from was not identical (except for case) to the poster's subscribed address. E.g. user@example.com vs. user@mail.example.com or user@gmail.com vs. user@googlemail.com.

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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <br> <br> Mark Sapiro wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:PC195200912090720180296963be6fa@msapiro" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">TomSherlock wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">With Mailman version 2.1.11.cp3 I received the following message for a message posted by a member of the list:

"Post by non-member to a members-only list"

Any ideas? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!---->

</pre> </blockquote> user should subscribe, once per email 'variation', and set all but one of the addresses to 'I don't want email'.<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:PC195200912090720180296963be6fa@msapiro" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">The address the poster sent the message from was not identical (except for case) to the poster's subscribed address. E.g. <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:user@example.com">user@example.com</a> vs. <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:user@mail.example.com">user@mail.example.com</a> or <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:user@gmail.com">user@gmail.com</a> vs. <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:user@googlemail.com">user@googlemail.com</a>.

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