Some recipients not receiving messages?
I'm not sure what's going on here. My mailing list has 47 recipients, yet when a message is sent to it, the "smtp" log sometimes says it's been delivered to 40 recipients and sometimes to 41 recipients. Questions:
(1) Why not "47" recipients, since that's the number on the list? (2) Why sometimes "40" and sometimes "41"? (3) Is there a way to see the entire list of recipients sent for each message received?
Thanks for any help!
/raj
On 07/09/2017 10:08 AM, Richard Johnson wrote:
I'm not sure what's going on here. My mailing list has 47 recipients, yet when a message is sent to it, the "smtp" log sometimes says it's been delivered to 40 recipients and sometimes to 41 recipients. Questions:
(1) Why not "47" recipients, since that's the number on the list?
People subscribed to digest, people with delivery disabled.
What does Mailman's
bin/list_members --regular --nomail=enabled | wc
or just
bin/list_members --regular --nomail=enabled
give.
(2) Why sometimes "40" and sometimes "41"?
Some posters may have 'not metoo' set. Some recipients may be directly addressed in To: or Cc: and have 'nodupes' set.
(3) Is there a way to see the entire list of recipients sent for each message received?
You can find this by looking at the outgoing MTA's logs.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Thanks for the reply!. With --regular & --nomail=enabled, it does, indeed, show 41. The 40 most certainly comes from times when someone includes an address already on the list, as you said.
I have been trying to get MTA log info from MacOS Sierra, but haven't gotten that working. It always worked previously, but Apple changed a lot of the logging in the latest OS and it doesn't log anything like it did previously. I'll continue to work on it. I was just hoping maybe I could get the info from mailman in the meantime.
Thanks for the help!
(Sent from my iPad)
/raj
On Jul 9, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 07/09/2017 10:08 AM, Richard Johnson wrote: I'm not sure what's going on here. My mailing list has 47 recipients, yet when a message is sent to it, the "smtp" log sometimes says it's been delivered to 40 recipients and sometimes to 41 recipients. Questions:
(1) Why not "47" recipients, since that's the number on the list?
People subscribed to digest, people with delivery disabled.
What does Mailman's
bin/list_members --regular --nomail=enabled | wc
or just
bin/list_members --regular --nomail=enabled
give.
(2) Why sometimes "40" and sometimes "41"?
Some posters may have 'not metoo' set. Some recipients may be directly addressed in To: or Cc: and have 'nodupes' set.
(3) Is there a way to see the entire list of recipients sent for each message received?
You can find this by looking at the outgoing MTA's logs.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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Are all 47 recipients on distintly *different* mail providers? Eg exactly one
on gmail, one on hotmail, one on AOL, one on Juno, one on umass.edu, etc.? Or
are there several on gmail, a bunch on hotmail, a handful on aol, a few on
Juno, etc.? It could be that that the E-Mails are grouped by provider.
*Also* if 6 or 7 of the people on the list are getting digests, it could be
that for any given message those people are not getting a direct delivery and
instead, *their* messages are being held for a digest to be sent on at a later
time.
At Sun, 9 Jul 2017 10:08:15 -0700 Richard Johnson <raj@mischievous.us> wrote:
I'm not sure what's going on here. My mailing list has 47 recipients, yet when a message is sent to it, the "smtp" log sometimes says it's been delivered to 40 recipients and sometimes to 41 recipients. Questions:
(1) Why not "47" recipients, since that's the number on the list? (2) Why sometimes "40" and sometimes "41"? (3) Is there a way to see the entire list of recipients sent for each message received?
Thanks for any help!
/raj
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The addresses are all over. As Shapiro pointed out, it looks as if more people are getting digests than I thought. Thanks for the reply!
(Sent from my iPad)
/raj
On Jul 10, 2017, at 6:40 AM, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
Are all 47 recipients on distintly *different* mail providers? Eg exactly one on gmail, one on hotmail, one on AOL, one on Juno, one on umass.edu, etc.? Or are there several on gmail, a bunch on hotmail, a handful on aol, a few on Juno, etc.? It could be that that the E-Mails are grouped by provider.
*Also* if 6 or 7 of the people on the list are getting digests, it could be that for any given message those people are not getting a direct delivery and instead, *their* messages are being held for a digest to be sent on at a later time.At Sun, 9 Jul 2017 10:08:15 -0700 Richard Johnson <raj@mischievous.us> wrote:
I'm not sure what's going on here. My mailing list has 47 recipients, yet when a message is sent to it, the "smtp" log sometimes says it's been delivered to 40 recipients and sometimes to 41 recipients. Questions:
(1) Why not "47" recipients, since that's the number on the list? (2) Why sometimes "40" and sometimes "41"? (3) Is there a way to see the entire list of recipients sent for each message received?
Thanks for any help!
/raj
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-- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services
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