Hi All-- Feel free to flagellate me if this is in the docs, but I didn't see it.
I'm running a mailing list for which some members might wish to post anonymously. I know that majordomo can be set up with an alternate address which members can mail to, like "xxxlist-anonymous@spamneggs.org". The list-admin can find out who really posted in case of maliciousness, but no one else can.
Is there some way to provide the moral equivalent in Mailman?
<moral;-ain't-that-a-mushroom>-ly y'rs, Ivan
Ivan Van Laningham Axent Technologies, Inc. http://www.pauahtun.org/ http://www.foretec.com/python/workshops/1998-11/proceedings.html Army Signal Corps: Cu Chi, Class of '70 Author: Teach Yourself Python in 24 Hours
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 09:51:16PM -0600, Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
"xxxlist-anonymous@spamneggs.org". The list-admin can find out who really posted in case of maliciousness, but no one else can. Is there some way to provide the moral equivalent in Mailman?
yep... you can violate the RFC's ;) Privacy options... last line "Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address"
Ricardo.
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Hi All--
Ricardo Kustner wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 09:51:16PM -0600, Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
"xxxlist-anonymous@spamneggs.org". The list-admin can find out who really posted in case of maliciousness, but no one else can. Is there some way to provide the moral equivalent in Mailman?
yep... you can violate the RFC's ;) Privacy options... last line "Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address"
<g> Yeah, I saw that. But I'm looking for a way for members to be able to select that option themselves, either for all their posts, or on a post-by-post basis.
<i-live-to-violate>-ly y'rs, Ivan;-)
Ivan Van Laningham Axent Technologies, Inc. http://www.pauahtun.org/ http://www.foretec.com/python/workshops/1998-11/proceedings.html Army Signal Corps: Cu Chi, Class of '70 Author: Teach Yourself Python in 24 Hours
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
Ricardo Kustner wrote:
On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 09:51:16PM -0600, Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
"xxxlist-anonymous@spamneggs.org". The list-admin can find out who really posted in case of maliciousness, but no one else can. Is there some way to provide the moral equivalent in Mailman?
yep... you can violate the RFC's ;) Privacy options... last line "Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address"
<g> Yeah, I saw that. But I'm looking for a way for members to be able to select that option themselves, either for all their posts, or on a post-by-post basis.
Create a second list, which anonymizes posts.
Subscribe the first list to the second list. Make sure your second list does not send out monthly password reminders.
Mission accomplished, I'd think.
Hi All--
Fred Hicks wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
Ricardo Kustner wrote:
On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 09:51:16PM -0600, Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
"xxxlist-anonymous@spamneggs.org". The list-admin can find out who really posted in case of maliciousness, but no one else can. Is there some way to provide the moral equivalent in Mailman?
yep... you can violate the RFC's ;) Privacy options... last line "Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address"
<g> Yeah, I saw that. But I'm looking for a way for members to be able to select that option themselves, either for all their posts, or on a post-by-post basis.
Create a second list, which anonymizes posts.
OK, xxxlist-anonymous...
Subscribe the first list to the second list. Make sure your second list does not send out monthly password reminders.
I understand part B here, but I'm not sure about A. Wouldn't subscribing xxxlist to xxxlist-anon mean that members who signed up for xxxlist-anon would only get the anonymous posts? Or is that the point?
Or am I just being obtuse?
Mission accomplished, I'd think.
<list-admin-of-very-small-brain>-ly y'rs, Ivan
Ivan Van Laningham Axent Technologies, Inc. http://www.pauahtun.org/ http://www.foretec.com/python/workshops/1998-11/proceedings.html Army Signal Corps: Cu Chi, Class of '70 Author: Teach Yourself Python in 24 Hours
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
OK, xxxlist-anonymous...
Subscribe the first list to the second list. Make sure your second list does not send out monthly password reminders.
I understand part B here, but I'm not sure about A. Wouldn't subscribing xxxlist to xxxlist-anon mean that members who signed up for xxxlist-anon would only get the anonymous posts? Or is that the point?
Or am I just being obtuse?
xxxlist-anon wouldn't have any subscribers other than the main list; it's a posting tool more than a mailing list.
If you wanted to restrict postings to xxxlist-anon to people subscribed to it, they'd subscribe to both lists, but they'd have the option for 'don't send me mail even though i'm subscribed' enabled for xxxlist-anon.
Clunky, but the best you can do without writing an anonymizing agent (script) that preprocessed posts sent to a certain alias before forwarding them on to the 'real' list.
Fred Hicks wrote:
Create a second list, which anonymizes posts.
Subscribe the first list to the second list. Make sure your second list does not send out monthly password reminders.
Mission accomplished, I'd think.
How do you turn off the monthly passwoord reminder message?
Bo Bankson
I have successfully (at least I think so) setup mailman and created the "test" list. Mailman sent me the confirmation that I created the list and I can login to the web administration. However when I send a message to test-request and to test, the mailserver responds with "user unknown". See log file below.
Jun 12 12:30:38 montwood sendmail[13923]: MAA13923: <test@montwood.netwood.net>... User unknown Jun 12 13:44:07 montwood sendmail[14714]: NAA14714: <test-request@montwood.netwood.net>... User unknown
Does anyone know what the problem might be? Does this have anything to do with the newaliases executable? I ran it and the log file says that it rebuilt the aliases.
I'm using RHL 6.2
Jonas Fornander - support@netwood.net Netwood Communications - www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - Tel: 310-442-1530
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Jonas Fornander wrote:
I have successfully (at least I think so) setup mailman and created the "test" list. Mailman sent me the confirmation that I created the list and I can login to the web administration. However when I send a message to test-request and to test, the mailserver responds with "user unknown". See log file below.
Jun 12 12:30:38 montwood sendmail[13923]: MAA13923: <test@montwood.netwood.net>... User unknown Jun 12 13:44:07 montwood sendmail[14714]: NAA14714: <test-request@montwood.netwood.net>... User unknown
Sounds like you don't have the aliases set up in your mailer.
-- Phillip P. Porch <root@sco.theporch.com> NIC:PP1573 finger for http://www.theporch.com UTM - 16 514546E 3994565N PGP key
I created these aliases according to the instructions: mailman: jonas@netwood.net mailman-owner: mailman
Then I did: #/usr/bin/newaliases
Isn't this correct?
Jonas Fornander - support@netwood.net Netwood Communications - www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - Tel: 310-442-1530
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Porch" <root@theporch.com> To: "Jonas Fornander" <jonas@netwood.net> Cc: <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] user unknown
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Jonas Fornander wrote:
I have successfully (at least I think so) setup mailman and created the "test" list. Mailman sent me the confirmation that I created the list and I can login to the web administration. However when I send a message to test-request and to test, the mailserver responds with "user unknown". See log file below.
Jun 12 12:30:38 montwood sendmail[13923]: MAA13923: <test@montwood.netwood.net>... User unknown Jun 12 13:44:07 montwood sendmail[14714]: NAA14714: <test-request@montwood.netwood.net>... User unknown
Sounds like you don't have the aliases set up in your mailer.
-- Phillip P. Porch <root@sco.theporch.com> NIC:PP1573 finger for http://www.theporch.com UTM - 16 514546E 3994565N PGP key
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Jonas Fornander wrote:
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:16:49 -0700 From: Jonas Fornander <jonas@netwood.net> To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] user unknown
I created these aliases according to the instructions: mailman: jonas@netwood.net mailman-owner: mailman
Then I did: #/usr/bin/newaliases
Isn't this correct?
Yes but you also need aliases for the list you created:
test: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test" test-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test" test-request: "|/usr/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test" test-owner: mailman
then do a newaliases.
Jonas Fornander - support@netwood.net Netwood Communications - www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - Tel: 310-442-1530
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Porch" <root@theporch.com> To: "Jonas Fornander" <jonas@netwood.net> Cc: <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] user unknown
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Jonas Fornander wrote:
I have successfully (at least I think so) setup mailman and created the "test" list. Mailman sent me the confirmation that I created the list and I can login to the web administration. However when I send a message to test-request and to test, the mailserver responds with "user unknown". See log file below.
Jun 12 12:30:38 montwood sendmail[13923]: MAA13923: <test@montwood.netwood.net>... User unknown Jun 12 13:44:07 montwood sendmail[14714]: NAA14714: <test-request@montwood.netwood.net>... User unknown
Sounds like you don't have the aliases set up in your mailer.
-- Phillip P. Porch <root@sco.theporch.com> NIC:PP1573 finger for http://www.theporch.com UTM - 16 514546E 3994565N PGP key
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
-- Phillip P. Porch <root@sco.theporch.com> NIC:PP1573 finger for http://www.theporch.com UTM - 16 514546E 3994565N PGP key
Yes but you also need aliases for the list you created:
test: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test" test-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test" test-request: "|/usr/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test" test-owner: mailman
then do a newaliases.
Should I create these aliases for every new list (replacing test with the new listname)? When I create the above aliases, it should be without the " and the | characters I assume? Where can I find instructions on this? I can't find it in the Mailman documentation.
Jonas Fornander - support@netwood.net Netwood Communications - www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - Tel: 310-442-1530
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Porch" <root@theporch.com> To: "Jonas Fornander" <jonas@netwood.net> Cc: <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] user unknown
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Jonas Fornander wrote:
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:16:49 -0700 From: Jonas Fornander <jonas@netwood.net> To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] user unknown
I created these aliases according to the instructions: mailman: jonas@netwood.net mailman-owner: mailman
Then I did: #/usr/bin/newaliases
Isn't this correct?
Yes but you also need aliases for the list you created:
test: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test" test-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test" test-request: "|/usr/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test" test-owner: mailman
then do a newaliases.
Jonas Fornander - support@netwood.net Netwood Communications - www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - Tel: 310-442-1530
----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Porch" <root@theporch.com> To: "Jonas Fornander" <jonas@netwood.net> Cc: <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] user unknown
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Jonas Fornander wrote:
I have successfully (at least I think so) setup mailman and created
"test" list. Mailman sent me the confirmation that I created the
the list
and I
can login to the web administration. However when I send a message to test-request and to test, the mailserver responds with "user unknown". See log file below.
Jun 12 12:30:38 montwood sendmail[13923]: MAA13923: <test@montwood.netwood.net>... User unknown Jun 12 13:44:07 montwood sendmail[14714]: NAA14714: <test-request@montwood.netwood.net>... User unknown
Sounds like you don't have the aliases set up in your mailer.
-- Phillip P. Porch <root@sco.theporch.com> NIC:PP1573 finger for http://www.theporch.com UTM - 16 514546E 3994565N PGP key
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
-- Phillip P. Porch <root@sco.theporch.com> NIC:PP1573 finger for http://www.theporch.com UTM - 16 514546E 3994565N PGP key
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
participants (6)
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Bo Bankson (aka Postman77) -
Fred Hicks -
Ivan Van Laningham -
Jonas Fornander -
Phillip Porch -
Ricardo Kustner