perplexing mailman issue.
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hello, when i sent a subscription request in plane text, i got nothing back, however, when i sent it in HTML, i got a responce, is this a mailman issue?
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On 09/24/2014 06:47 AM, Michael Capelle wrote:
To what address are you sending these?
What is the Subject: and the body contents of the messages you are sending?
What is the response you get to your HTML message?
Is there an entry like "No command, message discarded, msgid: ..." in Mailman's 'vette' log corresponding to your plain text message?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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office2007-join@GatewayForTheBlind.Com if i send no subject in plane text, i get nothing back in my inbox, but if i switch it to html, then i get a responce, saying i was subscribed.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sapiro" <mark@msapiro.net> To: <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] perplexing mailman issue.
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On 09/24/2014 08:28 AM, Michael Capelle wrote:
I can't explain why this would be the case. When you mail to a list's -join address, Mailman only looks at the address in the From: header of the message. The Subject:, body content and MIME structure (plain text vs HTML) of the message should be irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the address. If the address was not already a list member, you should get a response either saying you've been subscribed or more often, asking you to confirm your request. If the address was already a list member, you should get a response saying you're already subscribed.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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that is the perplexing thing, when i sent it as plane text, i got nothing back, but when i sent it as HTML, then i got a responce. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sapiro" <mark@msapiro.net> To: "Michael Capelle" <michael.capelle@charter.net>; <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] perplexing mailman issue.
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On 09/24/2014 09:40 AM, Michael Capelle wrote:
that is the perplexing thing, when i sent it as plane text, i got nothing back, but when i sent it as HTML, then i got a responce.
Perhaps there is greylisting in effect that caused some response to be delayed.
Perhaps there is some other reason one of the responses didn't reach your inbox.
In any case, Mailman will not treat messages to a lists -join address differently based of whether they are plain text or HTML.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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On 09/24/2014 06:47 AM, Michael Capelle wrote:
To what address are you sending these?
What is the Subject: and the body contents of the messages you are sending?
What is the response you get to your HTML message?
Is there an entry like "No command, message discarded, msgid: ..." in Mailman's 'vette' log corresponding to your plain text message?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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office2007-join@GatewayForTheBlind.Com if i send no subject in plane text, i get nothing back in my inbox, but if i switch it to html, then i get a responce, saying i was subscribed.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sapiro" <mark@msapiro.net> To: <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] perplexing mailman issue.
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On 09/24/2014 08:28 AM, Michael Capelle wrote:
I can't explain why this would be the case. When you mail to a list's -join address, Mailman only looks at the address in the From: header of the message. The Subject:, body content and MIME structure (plain text vs HTML) of the message should be irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the address. If the address was not already a list member, you should get a response either saying you've been subscribed or more often, asking you to confirm your request. If the address was already a list member, you should get a response saying you're already subscribed.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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that is the perplexing thing, when i sent it as plane text, i got nothing back, but when i sent it as HTML, then i got a responce. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sapiro" <mark@msapiro.net> To: "Michael Capelle" <michael.capelle@charter.net>; <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] perplexing mailman issue.
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On 09/24/2014 09:40 AM, Michael Capelle wrote:
that is the perplexing thing, when i sent it as plane text, i got nothing back, but when i sent it as HTML, then i got a responce.
Perhaps there is greylisting in effect that caused some response to be delayed.
Perhaps there is some other reason one of the responses didn't reach your inbox.
In any case, Mailman will not treat messages to a lists -join address differently based of whether they are plain text or HTML.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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