I have mailman installed with a RedHat rpm, version mailman-2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.5 Everything works great except that the list owners or moderators do not get any requests when postings are held. Posters get the message that the posting is waiting for approval. Any suggestions on what might be causing this problem would be most appreciated.
Thanks.
Paula
Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
Is admin_immed_notify set to Yes (under Notifications on the General Options page)?
If so, do you see three entries in Mailman's smtp log similar to the following from the time the message was held.
The first of these is the notice to the poster, the second is the notice to listname-owner@example.com and the third is the resend of the listname-owner@example.com message to the actual owners and moderators.
Note that all three have Mailman gererated Message-Ids and that the 2nd and third have the same Message-Id which differs from the first only in that the first numeric field is incremented by 1.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
I do have admin_immed_notify set to yes.
I am only getting the first two of the entries in the mailman smtp log. So, the resend to the actual owners isn't happening.
Thanks, Paula
Paula Gray-Overtoom
Bloomington, IN
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:09 PM
To: Paula Gray-Overtoom; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] owner/moderator requests not sent
Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
>I have mailman installed with a RedHat rpm, version
>mailman-2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.5 Everything works great except that the list
>owners or moderators do not get any requests when postings are held.
>Posters get the message that the posting is waiting for approval. Any
>suggestions on what might be causing this problem would be most
>appreciated.
Is admin_immed_notify set to Yes (under Notifications on the General
Options page)?
If so, do you see three entries in Mailman's smtp log similar to the
following from the time the message was held.
>Mar 24 08:50:56 2007 (1570)
<mailman.54003.1174755055.1568.listname@example.com> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.034 seconds
>Mar 24 08:50:56 2007 (1570)
<mailman.54004.1174755055.1568.listname@example.com> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.062 seconds
>Mar 24 08:51:10 2007 (1570)
<mailman.54004.1174755055.1568.listname@example.com> smtp for n recips,
completed in 0.067 seconds
The first of these is the notice to the poster, the second is the
notice to listname-owner@example.com and the third is the resend of
the listname-owner@example.com message to the actual owners and
moderators.
Note that all three have Mailman gererated Message-Ids and that the 2nd
and third have the same Message-Id which differs from the first only
in that the first numeric field is incremented by 1.
--
Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
I am only getting the first two of the entries in the mailman smtp log. So, the resend to the actual owners isn't happening.
It seems there is some problem with delivery to the listname-owner address. Perhaps an alias problem.
What happens if you email the listname-owner address directly?
What's in the MTA log for the mail to listname-owner?
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
There could be an alias type problem. If I send a message to listname-owner@servername.domain.com the message gets sent to the list owners, but if I send the message to listname-owner@domain.com it doesn't get sent.
When the messages aren't going through the MTA log entries are as follows:
Mar 24 13:38:59 frost sendmail[7404]: l2OHcxQ0007402: to=<trustees-owner@monroe.lib.in.us>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=231017, relay=mail.monroe.lib.in.us. [66.244.68.18], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( <mailman.1.1174757938.7371.trustees@monroe.lib.in.us> Queued mail for delivery) Mar 24 13:38:59 frost sendmail[7401]: l2OHcxAi007399: to=<pgrayove@monroe.lib.in.us>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=229229, relay=mail.monroe.lib.in.us. [66.244.68.18], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( <mailman.0.1174757938.7371.trustees@monroe.lib.in.us> Queued mail for delivery)
Thanks, Paula
Paula Gray-Overtoom
Bloomington, IN
-----Original Message-----
From: mailman-users-bounces+pgrayove=monroe.lib.in.us@python.org
[mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pgrayove=monroe.lib.in.us@python.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:35 PM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] owner/moderator requests not sent
Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
>
>I am only getting the first two of the entries in the mailman smtp log.
>So, the resend to the actual owners isn't happening.
It seems there is some problem with delivery to the listname-owner
address. Perhaps an alias problem.
What happens if you email the listname-owner address directly?
What's in the MTA log for the mail to listname-owner?
--
Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
This may be an MTA/alias issue. The real question is what is the email host name you want to use for your list. If it is servername.domain.com, then your list and possibly your Mailman installation is misconfigured.
To what domain are list posts addressed? listname@servername.domain.com or listname@domain.com.
If they are sent to listname@domain.com, and that works, what's different in the MTA/aliases configuration between listname and listname-owner?
If the list addresses are intended to be at servername.domain.com, then the list's host_name attribute should be servername.domain.com. Also probably DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in mm_cfg.py should be set to 'servername.domain.com', and possibly other things set in mm_cfg.py.
See <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp>. Don't overlook the section on "Existing versus new lists".
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Thanks so much for your assistance. I just needed to set 'hostname this list prefers' to servername.domain.com rather than just domain.com. We have most of our mail on another sever that is set to domain.com and will send emails for the mailman lists on to the mailman server at servername.domain.com. So, emails sent to either address will get to the mailman lists and now those for the owners will get sent out properly from mailman.
Thanks, Paula
Paula Gray-Overtoom
Bloomington, IN
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 3:34 PM
To: Paula Gray-Overtoom; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] owner/moderator requests not sent
Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
>There could be an alias type problem. If I send a message to
>listname-owner@servername.domain.com the message gets sent to the list
>owners, but if I send the message to listname-owner@domain.com it
>doesn't get sent.
This may be an MTA/alias issue. The real question is what is the email
host name you want to use for your list. If it is
servername.domain.com, then your list and possibly your Mailman
installation is misconfigured.
To what domain are list posts addressed? listname@servername.domain.com
or listname@domain.com.
If they are sent to listname@domain.com, and that works, what's
different in the MTA/aliases configuration between listname and
listname-owner?
If the list addresses are intended to be at servername.domain.com, then
the list's host_name attribute should be servername.domain.com. Also
probably DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in mm_cfg.py should be set to
'servername.domain.com', and possibly other things set in mm_cfg.py.
See
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp>.
Don't overlook the section on "Existing versus new lists".
--
Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
Is admin_immed_notify set to Yes (under Notifications on the General Options page)?
If so, do you see three entries in Mailman's smtp log similar to the following from the time the message was held.
The first of these is the notice to the poster, the second is the notice to listname-owner@example.com and the third is the resend of the listname-owner@example.com message to the actual owners and moderators.
Note that all three have Mailman gererated Message-Ids and that the 2nd and third have the same Message-Id which differs from the first only in that the first numeric field is incremented by 1.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
I do have admin_immed_notify set to yes.
I am only getting the first two of the entries in the mailman smtp log. So, the resend to the actual owners isn't happening.
Thanks, Paula
Paula Gray-Overtoom
Bloomington, IN
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:09 PM
To: Paula Gray-Overtoom; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] owner/moderator requests not sent
Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
>I have mailman installed with a RedHat rpm, version
>mailman-2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.5 Everything works great except that the list
>owners or moderators do not get any requests when postings are held.
>Posters get the message that the posting is waiting for approval. Any
>suggestions on what might be causing this problem would be most
>appreciated.
Is admin_immed_notify set to Yes (under Notifications on the General
Options page)?
If so, do you see three entries in Mailman's smtp log similar to the
following from the time the message was held.
>Mar 24 08:50:56 2007 (1570)
<mailman.54003.1174755055.1568.listname@example.com> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.034 seconds
>Mar 24 08:50:56 2007 (1570)
<mailman.54004.1174755055.1568.listname@example.com> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.062 seconds
>Mar 24 08:51:10 2007 (1570)
<mailman.54004.1174755055.1568.listname@example.com> smtp for n recips,
completed in 0.067 seconds
The first of these is the notice to the poster, the second is the
notice to listname-owner@example.com and the third is the resend of
the listname-owner@example.com message to the actual owners and
moderators.
Note that all three have Mailman gererated Message-Ids and that the 2nd
and third have the same Message-Id which differs from the first only
in that the first numeric field is incremented by 1.
--
Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
I am only getting the first two of the entries in the mailman smtp log. So, the resend to the actual owners isn't happening.
It seems there is some problem with delivery to the listname-owner address. Perhaps an alias problem.
What happens if you email the listname-owner address directly?
What's in the MTA log for the mail to listname-owner?
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
There could be an alias type problem. If I send a message to listname-owner@servername.domain.com the message gets sent to the list owners, but if I send the message to listname-owner@domain.com it doesn't get sent.
When the messages aren't going through the MTA log entries are as follows:
Mar 24 13:38:59 frost sendmail[7404]: l2OHcxQ0007402: to=<trustees-owner@monroe.lib.in.us>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=231017, relay=mail.monroe.lib.in.us. [66.244.68.18], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( <mailman.1.1174757938.7371.trustees@monroe.lib.in.us> Queued mail for delivery) Mar 24 13:38:59 frost sendmail[7401]: l2OHcxAi007399: to=<pgrayove@monroe.lib.in.us>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=229229, relay=mail.monroe.lib.in.us. [66.244.68.18], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( <mailman.0.1174757938.7371.trustees@monroe.lib.in.us> Queued mail for delivery)
Thanks, Paula
Paula Gray-Overtoom
Bloomington, IN
-----Original Message-----
From: mailman-users-bounces+pgrayove=monroe.lib.in.us@python.org
[mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pgrayove=monroe.lib.in.us@python.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:35 PM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] owner/moderator requests not sent
Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
>
>I am only getting the first two of the entries in the mailman smtp log.
>So, the resend to the actual owners isn't happening.
It seems there is some problem with delivery to the listname-owner
address. Perhaps an alias problem.
What happens if you email the listname-owner address directly?
What's in the MTA log for the mail to listname-owner?
--
Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
This may be an MTA/alias issue. The real question is what is the email host name you want to use for your list. If it is servername.domain.com, then your list and possibly your Mailman installation is misconfigured.
To what domain are list posts addressed? listname@servername.domain.com or listname@domain.com.
If they are sent to listname@domain.com, and that works, what's different in the MTA/aliases configuration between listname and listname-owner?
If the list addresses are intended to be at servername.domain.com, then the list's host_name attribute should be servername.domain.com. Also probably DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in mm_cfg.py should be set to 'servername.domain.com', and possibly other things set in mm_cfg.py.
See <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp>. Don't overlook the section on "Existing versus new lists".
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Thanks so much for your assistance. I just needed to set 'hostname this list prefers' to servername.domain.com rather than just domain.com. We have most of our mail on another sever that is set to domain.com and will send emails for the mailman lists on to the mailman server at servername.domain.com. So, emails sent to either address will get to the mailman lists and now those for the owners will get sent out properly from mailman.
Thanks, Paula
Paula Gray-Overtoom
Bloomington, IN
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 3:34 PM
To: Paula Gray-Overtoom; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] owner/moderator requests not sent
Paula Gray-Overtoom wrote:
>There could be an alias type problem. If I send a message to
>listname-owner@servername.domain.com the message gets sent to the list
>owners, but if I send the message to listname-owner@domain.com it
>doesn't get sent.
This may be an MTA/alias issue. The real question is what is the email
host name you want to use for your list. If it is
servername.domain.com, then your list and possibly your Mailman
installation is misconfigured.
To what domain are list posts addressed? listname@servername.domain.com
or listname@domain.com.
If they are sent to listname@domain.com, and that works, what's
different in the MTA/aliases configuration between listname and
listname-owner?
If the list addresses are intended to be at servername.domain.com, then
the list's host_name attribute should be servername.domain.com. Also
probably DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in mm_cfg.py should be set to
'servername.domain.com', and possibly other things set in mm_cfg.py.
See
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp>.
Don't overlook the section on "Existing versus new lists".
--
Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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