Hi.
I'm a new member of this group but have been running an email list with Mailman for a long time.
I am now setting a list up again and want to give a "look and feel" to the list which has more branding of my user group as a whole, and less of a Mailman-feel.
I seem to remember that besides editing the public HTML pages, it is possible to edit the text files which Mailman automatically sends out for certain needs (such as 'approve.txt', 'adminsubscribeack.txt', 'invite.txt', and so on).
A. Is this still the case? B. If so, where can I find them? (in case they've changed from the ones I have from long ago). C. Where do they need putting, so that Mailman can use them again?
It's important that I should tell you that Mailman on my webhosts servers is a "server-wide" installation, and I don't get to edit anything which other clients to their servers need. This would be only for my own use, and as such I need to know where these files go in my own webspace, and how to get Mailman to use them instead of the default ones.
I should also say that I have done this before, so unless the facility to do this has been ditched in recent years, I *should* still be able to do it !
Does Mailman perhaps look for these files somewhere in my webspace (which I have to give a specific name), and if it doesn't find them it goes on to find its default versions of these files?
Thanks in advance for your help. Pete Bell, UK
Pete Bell wrote:
I seem to remember that besides editing the public HTML pages, it is possible to edit the text files which Mailman automatically sends out for certain needs (such as 'approve.txt', 'adminsubscribeack.txt', 'invite.txt', and so on).
A. Is this still the case? B. If so, where can I find them? (in case they've changed from the ones I have from long ago). C. Where do they need putting, so that Mailman can use them again?
See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/jYA9>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
From the FAQ at link above: "The archiver maintains a template cache, so if you create edited versions of any archive related templates, you need to restart Mailman to get the qrunner to restart so that it will rebuild its template cache and in the process pick up new or changed templates.
Non-archive related templates are not cached so any edits or new domain or list specific templates will be effective immediately without a restart."
How do I know which are "archive related templates" and "non-archive related templates"?
I did change a text file (Notice of post refused by moderator) in the "Edit the public HTML pages and text files," and when it didn't work, changed it back to the original, and now it doesn't work. It must have been an archive related template.
I have a hosting company for this mailist. Do I ask them to reboot the list?
How can I know what I can and can't change in the future?
Thanks for any solutions. Jan
On 5/7/24 12:15, jan@janalexander.ca wrote:
From the FAQ at link above:
No link, but presumably https://wiki.list.org/x/4030605
How do I know which are "archive related templates" and "non-archive related templates"?
Archive related templates are those used to build the archive web pages, i.e., those at a pipermail URL if the archive is public or at a mailman/private URL if the archive is private.
I did change a text file (Notice of post refused by moderator) in the "Edit the public HTML pages and text files," and when it didn't work, changed it back to the original, and now it doesn't work. It must have been an archive related template.
No, it isn't and none of the templates you can edit via the "Edit the public HTML pages and text files" are, not even the Private archive login page.
I have a hosting company for this mailist. Do I ask them to reboot the list?
Without access to the mailman logs and file system, I can't say what the issue might be, but it has nothing to do with archive related templates. You need to ask the hosting company to look at this, but 'rebooting' the list almost certainly won't help.
How can I know what I can and can't change in the future?
Given that editing a template via the "Edit the public HTML pages and text files" didn't work in this case, it probably won't work at all, but again, someone with admin access to the mailman server has to diagnose/fix this. With luck, your hosting company can do this. If they need help, they can get it here.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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