Problems with subscribed users
I have a closed list but for some *subscribed* users, all posts must be approved by me (error Only subscribed users may post to the list). (See Bug 126 in the jitterbug DB). Can you please have a look ASAP because many valid users get these mails back ?
This seems to be related to having several aliases for a machine.
-- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla Team AMIGA AROS Head of Development Author of XDME, ResTrackLib, CInt. <http://www.aros.org/> "(to) optimize: Make a program faster by improving the algorithms rather than by buying a faster machine." <digulla@hepe.com>
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 01:52:10PM +0200, Aaron Optimizer Digulla wrote:
I have a closed list but for some *subscribed* users, all posts must be approved by me (error Only subscribed users may post to the list). (See Bug 126 in the jitterbug DB). Can you please have a look ASAP because many valid users get these mails back ?
This seems to be related to having several aliases for a machine.
:-/ It gets more and more strange... when I set "Restrict posting privilege to list members?" and "Must posts be approved by an administrator?" to NO, then every post is held for approval !?!?!
Is there any better version than 1.0 ?
-- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla Team AMIGA AROS Head of Development Author of XDME, ResTrackLib, CInt. <http://www.aros.org/> "(to) optimize: Make a program faster by improving the algorithms rather than by buying a faster machine." <digulla@hepe.com>
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 05:43:17PM +0200, Aaron Optimizer Digulla wrote:
I have a closed list but for some *subscribed* users, all posts must be approved by me (error Only subscribed users may post to the list). (See Bug 126 in the jitterbug DB). Can you please have a look ASAP because many valid users get these mails back ?
This seems to be related to having several aliases for a machine.
:-/ It gets more and more strange... when I set "Restrict posting privilege to list members?" and "Must posts be approved by an administrator?" to NO, then every post is held for approval !?!?!
Ok, finally. After reading the mail archive and the FAQs (why is the FAQ in the package different from the FAQ on the WWW pages ???), I found why many posts are held for approval: Mailman doesn't use the
From or From: header lines but Sender: and Sender: is usually wrong. How do I have to change mailman that Sender: is ignored and "From " is used instead ?
Here is a header for which mailman fails:
yep.. i have actually ran into this same problem. but for some strange reason, i had a user send email from another linux box, cent@uix.com, and when it came through my server, the Sender field was changed to cent@crackpipe.txraves.org which #1 is not a valid email account and #2 is not sub'd to the list and hence rejected. he sent another test email from his machine to an imail server running on NT 4.0. when i pop'd that the Sender field was just 'cent' so i'm not sure if its mailman or something else on my system that is modifying the Sender field... *shrug*
at any rate it looks as if Sender isn't such a good field to be using.
jordan phillips blurr@txraves.org http://www.txraves.org/~blurr
----- Original Message ----- From: Aaron Optimizer Digulla <digulla@hepe.com> To: <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with subscribed users
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 05:43:17PM +0200, Aaron Optimizer Digulla wrote:
I have a closed list but for some *subscribed* users, all posts must be approved by me (error Only subscribed users may post to the list). (See Bug 126 in the jitterbug DB). Can you please have a look ASAP because many valid users get these mails back ?
This seems to be related to having several aliases for a machine.
:-/ It gets more and more strange... when I set "Restrict posting privilege to list members?" and "Must posts be approved by an administrator?" to NO, then every post is held for approval !?!?!
Ok, finally. After reading the mail archive and the FAQs (why is the FAQ in the package different from the FAQ on the WWW pages ???), I found why many posts are held for approval: Mailman doesn't use the
From or From: header lines but Sender: and Sender: is usually wrong. How do I have to change mailman that Sender: is ignored and "From " is used instead ?
Here is a header for which mailman fails:
From adam.chodorowski@bigfoot.com Wed Sep 22 14:39:50 1999 Received: from mailbox.sbbs2.net ([212.112.0.4] helo=mailbox.2.sbbs.se) by sebigbos.hepe.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1 (Debian)) id 11TlgR-0005Zf-00 for <aros-dev@sebigbos.hepe.com>; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:39:50 +0200 Received: from bigfoot.com (z16-4-199.sbbs2.net [212.112.4.199]) by mailbox.2.sbbs.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id SQJ0MZVB; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:43:19 +0200 Sender: adam Message-ID: <37E8D000.D516137D@bigfoot.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:48:00 +0200 From: Adam Chodorowski <adam.chodorowski@bigfoot.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9-19mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aros-dev@sebigbos.hepe.com Subject: Re: [AROS-Dev] CVS down? References: <37E7F695.2042597F@bigfoot.com> <19990922142409.G12634@sebigbos.hepe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
When this message is sent to the list, I get a mail that this is held for approval because "adam" is not subscribed. Adding "adam" to the list of addresses which can always post doesn't work.
-- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla Team AMIGA AROS Head of Development Author of XDME, ResTrackLib, CInt. <http://www.aros.org/> "(to) optimize: Make a program faster by improving the algorithms rather than by buying a faster machine." <digulla@hepe.com>
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On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 09:11:04AM -0500, blurr@txraves.org wrote:
yep.. i have actually ran into this same problem. but for some strange reason, i had a user send email from another linux box, cent@uix.com, and when it came through my server, the Sender field was changed to cent@crackpipe.txraves.org which #1 is not a valid email account and #2 is not sub'd to the list and hence rejected. he sent another test email from his machine to an imail server running on NT 4.0. when i pop'd that the Sender field was just 'cent' so i'm not sure if its mailman or something else on my system that is modifying the Sender field... *shrug*
at any rate it looks as if Sender isn't such a good field to be using.
Especially when the documentation expicitly states that "From " is used :-)
-- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla Team AMIGA AROS Head of Development Author of XDME, ResTrackLib, CInt. <http://www.aros.org/> "(to) optimize: Make a program faster by improving the algorithms rather than by buying a faster machine." <digulla@hepe.com>
On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 04:17:25PM +0200, Aaron Optimizer Digulla wrote:
Especially when the documentation expicitly states that "From " is used :-)
Update: I have activated the two lines of debug code in MailList.py. Here is what I get:
Sep 22 15:56:45 1999 post: envsend: digulla@sebigbos.hepe.com, sender: digulla@sebigbos.hepe.com Sep 22 19:07:23 1999 post: envsend: adam.chodorowski@bigfoot.com, sender: adam Sep 22 21:28:46 1999 post: envsend: adam.chodorowski@bigfoot.com, sender: adam Sep 22 22:12:22 1999 post: envsend: henning@tilt.prima.de, sender: henning@tilt.prima.de Sep 23 05:13:42 1999 post: envsend: Stefan.Berger@att.net, sender: root
Why is sender wrong sometimes ?
-- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla Team AMIGA AROS Head of Development Author of XDME, ResTrackLib, CInt. <http://www.aros.org/> "(to) optimize: Make a program faster by improving the algorithms rather than by buying a faster machine." <digulla@hepe.com>
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 03:05:56PM +0200, Aaron Optimizer Digulla wrote:
Sep 22 15:56:45 1999 post: envsend: digulla@sebigbos.hepe.com, sender: digulla@sebigbos.hepe.com Sep 22 19:07:23 1999 post: envsend: adam.chodorowski@bigfoot.com, sender: adam Sep 22 21:28:46 1999 post: envsend: adam.chodorowski@bigfoot.com, sender: adam Sep 22 22:12:22 1999 post: envsend: henning@tilt.prima.de, sender: henning@tilt.prima.de Sep 23 05:13:42 1999 post: envsend: Stefan.Berger@att.net, sender: root
Why is sender wrong sometimes ?
Here is a header for which mailman says the sender is "root":
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 03:08:47PM +0200, Aaron Optimizer Digulla wrote:
Sep 23 05:13:42 1999 post: envsend: Stefan.Berger@att.net, sender: root Why is sender wrong sometimes ? Here is a header for which mailman says the sender is "root": [...]
It seems it's a problem with Netscape: Netscape will add a Sender: field to the mail header and if one exists, Mailman will use it (instead of
From or From:) no matter what it contains. Can you change mailman to remove that field from the mail header when it sees the mail for the first time ?
-- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla Team AMIGA AROS Head of Development Author of XDME, ResTrackLib, CInt. <http://www.aros.org/> "(to) optimize: Make a program faster by improving the algorithms rather than by buying a faster machine." <digulla@hepe.com>
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