Re: [Mailman-Users] Member only list?
Hi Dan,
Thanks for this link.
It is not an umbrella list (or am I mistaking umbrella for something else here? Please elaborate), and the domain is fine...
Do you think if I enfore "require_explicit_destination = 0", it will work?
L. H. wrote apparently in response to an off list message:
Reread item 2) (one sentence) in FAQ 1.9.
The problem is the list is not explicitly addressed in the To: or Cc: headers of the post.
Do you think if I enfore "require_explicit_destination = 0", it will work?
That is one way to avoid THIS hold. The other is to make sure that the post is actually explicitly addressed to the list.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Right! That was it. Since the rackstar system is designed for virtual hosting, I made it so each list gets a unique name. So that multiple sites can have a list called "info". Rackstar will internally name them 53-info and 69-info, etc.
I did setup aliases to forward info@domain.com to 53-info@domain.com But, apparently, it did not take. How do I make it so it does take that?
Next up:
- OPEN List
Set misc settings
generic_nonmember_action = 0 default_member_moderation = no subscribe_policy = 0 max_message_size = 50 reply_goes_to_list = 1
---> NO verification required, but does need mod approval for subscribing ---> STILL requires mod approval of the message (non member)
- CLOSED (all posts req mod approval)
Set misc settings
default_member_moderation = yes member_moderation_action = 1 member_moderation_notice = 'Sorry, subscribers cannot post to this list.' generic_nonmember_action = 1 subscribe_policy = 2 max_message_size = 50 reply_goes_to_list = 1
---> MEMBER POSTS: Messages are PROCESSED, not held for approval. ---> NON MEMBER POST: Approval. So this is good. ---> MOD APPROVAL required for subscribing. Good.
Etc etc.
So I guess I am asking, (and god I've googled!!), how do I, using config_list, create the following scenario's
EVERYONE can post to the list. Members or non menmers
only members can post
any message, member or no member, requires mod approva.
anyone can sign up, no verification or approval required.
verification required, no approval required
verification + approval required
I hope someone can help me out. I've been searching like crazy.... ;)
L. H. wrote:
The alias works to direct the envelope to the desired address, but it doesn't rewrite the contents of the To: header in the post. Your MTA may be able to do that or it may not.
Given your situation, I think the easiest solution is to just set require_explicit_destination off.
And what is the reason for which the message is held?
This (1-3) was your question in the original post in this thread. The settings you indicated in that post (see, e.g. <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-June/057362.html>) are appropriate for what you want.
As we now see, there was a special circumstance in your installation which caused posts to be held for implicit destination.
We can't anticipate all these things which is why when a post is unexpectedly held, we need to know the reason why it is being held.
This reason is available in the 'your message is held for approval' notice to the poster, in the notice to the moderator, in the admindb interface and in Mailman's vette log.
So for what reason is the post held? Tell us that, and we can tell you what to change.
4-6 are tricky because they depend on the mm_cfg.py setting if any for ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE. If you have
ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes
in mm_cfg.py, the config_list settings for subscribe_policy for cases 4-6 are respectively 0, 1 and 3. If you don't have
ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes
in mm_cfg.py, the settings for subscribe_policy for cases 5 and 6 are respectively 0 and 2, and case 4 cannot be set via subscribe_policy. Case 4 can be set via
mlist.subscribe_policy = 0
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
L. H. wrote apparently in response to an off list message:
Reread item 2) (one sentence) in FAQ 1.9.
The problem is the list is not explicitly addressed in the To: or Cc: headers of the post.
Do you think if I enfore "require_explicit_destination = 0", it will work?
That is one way to avoid THIS hold. The other is to make sure that the post is actually explicitly addressed to the list.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Right! That was it. Since the rackstar system is designed for virtual hosting, I made it so each list gets a unique name. So that multiple sites can have a list called "info". Rackstar will internally name them 53-info and 69-info, etc.
I did setup aliases to forward info@domain.com to 53-info@domain.com But, apparently, it did not take. How do I make it so it does take that?
Next up:
- OPEN List
Set misc settings
generic_nonmember_action = 0 default_member_moderation = no subscribe_policy = 0 max_message_size = 50 reply_goes_to_list = 1
---> NO verification required, but does need mod approval for subscribing ---> STILL requires mod approval of the message (non member)
- CLOSED (all posts req mod approval)
Set misc settings
default_member_moderation = yes member_moderation_action = 1 member_moderation_notice = 'Sorry, subscribers cannot post to this list.' generic_nonmember_action = 1 subscribe_policy = 2 max_message_size = 50 reply_goes_to_list = 1
---> MEMBER POSTS: Messages are PROCESSED, not held for approval. ---> NON MEMBER POST: Approval. So this is good. ---> MOD APPROVAL required for subscribing. Good.
Etc etc.
So I guess I am asking, (and god I've googled!!), how do I, using config_list, create the following scenario's
EVERYONE can post to the list. Members or non menmers
only members can post
any message, member or no member, requires mod approva.
anyone can sign up, no verification or approval required.
verification required, no approval required
verification + approval required
I hope someone can help me out. I've been searching like crazy.... ;)
L. H. wrote:
The alias works to direct the envelope to the desired address, but it doesn't rewrite the contents of the To: header in the post. Your MTA may be able to do that or it may not.
Given your situation, I think the easiest solution is to just set require_explicit_destination off.
And what is the reason for which the message is held?
This (1-3) was your question in the original post in this thread. The settings you indicated in that post (see, e.g. <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-June/057362.html>) are appropriate for what you want.
As we now see, there was a special circumstance in your installation which caused posts to be held for implicit destination.
We can't anticipate all these things which is why when a post is unexpectedly held, we need to know the reason why it is being held.
This reason is available in the 'your message is held for approval' notice to the poster, in the notice to the moderator, in the admindb interface and in Mailman's vette log.
So for what reason is the post held? Tell us that, and we can tell you what to change.
4-6 are tricky because they depend on the mm_cfg.py setting if any for ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE. If you have
ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes
in mm_cfg.py, the config_list settings for subscribe_policy for cases 4-6 are respectively 0, 1 and 3. If you don't have
ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes
in mm_cfg.py, the settings for subscribe_policy for cases 5 and 6 are respectively 0 and 2, and case 4 cannot be set via subscribe_policy. Case 4 can be set via
mlist.subscribe_policy = 0
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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