From: Richard@Damon-Family.org I have been (slowly) working on an module to integrate a mailing list to a Drupal web site. My goal is to generate an archive that you can easily find recent messages in, and then be able to reply back to the list via the web site. I will need to look at some of those options to see if any would help in my needs.

I found Drupal hard enough by itself, let alone integrating it with a mailing list. Good luck.

I finally got FUDforum to work. Without wanting to go into detail here, I had to change the shebang line on maillist.php and change the file permissions in the FUDforum/messages folder. Seems simple now! On installation I had other permission errors (host doesn't allow 777 web directories), and other errors may occur in future, but at least I know in principle it works for me.

Incidentally, my impression of Groupserver is that it would be good but difficult to install and maintain, as their focus is definitely on their hosted, paid-for service.

When is Mailman 3 expected to be released, very approximately?

On 17 Apr 2014, at 04:27, Jon 1234 jon.1234@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

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From: Richard@Damon-Family.org I have been (slowly) working on an module to integrate a mailing list to a Drupal web site. My goal is to generate an archive that you can easily find recent messages in, and then be able to reply back to the list via the web site. I will need to look at some of those options to see if any would help in my needs.

I found Drupal hard enough by itself, let alone integrating it with a mailing list. Good luck.

I finally got FUDforum to work. Without wanting to go into detail here, I had to change the shebang line on maillist.php and change the file permissions in the FUDforum/messages folder. Seems simple now! On installation I had other permission errors (host doesn't allow 777 web directories), and other errors may occur in future, but at least I know in principle it works for me.

I have it working with Fudforum and although the fudforum integration was (to me) poorly documented I got it working and has been stable / rock solid for a couple of years now.

It would be nice to get things like membership linked between the two and to more easily identify forum posters (when their mail hits the list) but that is just a comment not a request (unless someone has worked it out!)

BW Tim

On 17 Apr 2014, at 22:04, Jon 1234 jon.1234@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

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From: tim@yingtong.co.uk I have it working with Fudforum and although the fudforum integration was (to me) poorly documented I got it working and has been stable / rock solid for a couple of years now.

It would be nice to get things like membership linked between the two and to more easily identify forum posters (when their mail hits the list) but that is just a comment not a request (unless someone has worked it out!)

BW Tim I'm pleased to hear this - out of interest, which versions of FUDforum and Mailman are you running?

I have some ideas about linking membership and will report back here if I come up with anything useful.

By 'more easily identify forum posters' do you mean by, for instance, a header/footer stating that the message came from the web interface? I think that would be fairly easy to implement. Or is it part of your linking-membership point? - so that, for instance, you'd want Mailman to realise when a forum post should (or should not) be held for moderation?

Best wishes

Jon

Hi Jon, FUDForum 3.0.5 but several version prior to the latest too. Mailman 2.1.12 as part of Virtualmin

ref identity I really mean at present most of the traffic is on the mailing list (and the forum is more of an archive for 80% of the joint community) where users complain they can’t easily identify forum posters as people (its a friendly bunch) as I’ve set it to post to the list as the single subscribed list address. They/I would like to see the forum users name/email address somewhere inside the body text so they can say “Hi Peter, good to hear from you, I think I can answer this one…” I’ve searched within FUDforum for documentation of how to format posts to include posters names etc. to no avail.

In reality for membership intergration between the two I suspect I wouldn’t be first in the queue currently as I have several hundred subscribers both places, with significant overlap between them!

BW TIm

On 18 Apr 2014, at 02:26, Jon 1234 jon.1234@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

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From: tim@yingtong.co.uk Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 00:36:37 +0100 ref identity I really mean at present most of the traffic is on the mailing list (and the forum is more of an archive for 80% of the joint community) where users complain they can’t easily identify forum posters as people (its a friendly bunch) as I’ve set it to post to the list as the single subscribed list address. They/I would like to see the forum users name/email address somewhere inside the body text so they can say “Hi Peter, good to hear from you, I think I can answer this one…” I’ve searched within FUDforum for documentation of how to format posts to include posters names etc. to no avail.

This seems to work. Go to forum/theme/default/post.php and find the line:

if (!empty($r[3])) { // Use the forum's fixed "From:" address.

After it add words to the following effect:

$body .= "\n-- \nThis message was sent via the web forum by $from";

You should get a footer along the lines of:

This message was sent via the web forum by Name <email address>

Which will be followed by the Mailman footer.

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In reality for membership intergration between the two I suspect I wouldn’t be first in the queue currently as I have several hundred subscribers both places, with significant overlap between them!

BW TIm

If I manage to solve this how about I mention it here but post the detail on the FUDforum website?

Best wishes

Jon

Hi Jon, brilliant. Works exactly as it says on the tin. I’m guessing however it will be overwritten with the next patch, but I can live with that. In this life I am a user rather than a contributor I’m afraid, is there a way of putting that at the top such as “Tim Walter wrote on the forum…”

As to the integration I suspect both places seem sensible, I hang out in both.

(Sorry to have slightly hijacked the mailman list for FUDForum stuff, though hopefully moderately relevant.)

From: tim@yingtong.co.uk Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 19:46:03 +0100 I have it working with Fudforum and although the fudforum integration was (to me) poorly documented I got it working and has been stable / rock solid for a couple of years now.

It would be nice to get things like membership linked between the two and to more easily identify forum posters (when their mail hits the list) but that is just a comment not a request (unless someone has worked it out!)

I think I have got Mailman and FUDforum to work well together by writing two FUDforum plugins. One uses Mailman’s email/password list for logins to the forum (calling, using php’s shell_exec() command, two separate withlist scripts based on the example in the withlist documentation). The other unsets a user’s Mailman moderation bit (by calling Mark Sapiro’s set_mod withlist script) just before the user’s first post is approved via FUDforum.

I’ll post the plugins to the FUDforum website when I’m finished, but in the meantime I’d be very grateful for comments on the Mailman withlist scripts I’ve used: (a) will they still work when I upgrade to 2.1.18-1? and (b) is there a better way of doing it? Thanks in advance, and feel free to ask for further information!

#! /path/to/bin/python

from Mailman.Errors import NotAMemberError

def get_name(mlist, member):

try:

            print

'%s' % (mlist.getMemberName(member))

except NotAMemberError:

print 'No address matched:', member

#! /path/to/bin/python

from Mailman.Errors import NotAMemberError

def get_password(mlist, member):

try:

            print

'%s' % (mlist.getMemberPassword(member))

except NotAMemberError:

print 'No address matched:', member

On 05/07/2014 04:50 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On the other hand, it is a bit of overkill to do these as withlist scripts because of the withlist setup and takedown. You could, e.g., do something like

#! /path/to/bin/python import sys import paths from Mailman import MailList from Mailman.Errors import MMUnknownListError, NotAMemberError try: mlist = MailList.MailList(sys.argv[1]) except MMUnknownListError: print 'No such list: %s' % sys.argv[1] sys.exit(1) try: print mlist.getMemberName(sys.argv[2]) except NotAMemberError: print 'No address matched: %s' % member

There are two errors in the above.

The 7th line should be

mlist = MailList.MailList(sys.argv[1], lock=False)

and the last line should be

print 'No address matched: %s' % sys.argv[2]

-- Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan