I hate to ask a question that has probably been asked a dozen times, but I have not been able to find an answer by searching the archives, the readme files, or the web.
I have a new installation of Mailman (2.0beta5-1) on a Redhat 6.2 box with Sendmail. I moved my list of 218 members from a listbot server, and everything SEEMS to work fine, except that a large number of the 218 members aren't getting messages.
There is nothing in the error log, but the bounce log is filling up with entries. I did a grep on a few addresses that aren't getting the mail and I see:
name@hotmail.com - 2 more allowed over 278543 secs
name@hotmail.com - 1 more allowed over 2xxxxx secs
name@hotmail.com - 0 more allowed over 2xxxxx secs
name@hotmail.com - 0 more allowed over 2xxxxx secs
etc . . .I can use sendmail to get to these addresses just fine, btw. Any help would be appreciated!
John
We're using Mailman to manage many lists. Our announcement list is very large, 50,000+ users.
Whenever we post a message to the very large list, posts stop flowing from the others.
I've looked through the Mailman source to figure out why, and I'm stumped. It seems to me that nothing should be impeding the other lists from injecting their messages into the queue, interleaved with the mass mailout from the announcement list.
If I add a new member to a list, that member gets their welcome message instantly. So there isn't a fundamental resource limitation here. A post to that list, however, doesn't get through.
Any suggestions on how to fix this?
-- Neil Kandalgaonkar Web App Developer, ActiveState
Neil Kandalgaonkar wrote:
This might not be mailman's doing. This may be your MTA. If it's toobusy spitting out messages, it'll refuse new connections till the load drops. I know sendmail will stop receiving email if the system load gets too high. It will also throttle itself if you have a high volume of messages going through, and again, new messages will not be posted.
AMK4-- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. |____________________________________________________________________
Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ashley@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130
SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130
Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . eFax 248.671.0909
http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6
.................. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:54:02 -0800, Neil Kandalgaonkar writes:
I'm a total mailman neophite, but I'll take a stab.
I believe that mailman hands the mail and to list to sendmail syncronisly. So that qrunner waits till sendmail returns before it goes on. So it may take some time on a big chuck.
I believe a future release will have more multi-threading here, and better qfile handling. But I should let the master's speak.
-=- Matthew L. Seidl email: seidl@cs.colorado.edu =-= =-= Graduate Student Project . . . What Project? -=- -=- http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~seidl/Home.html -Morrow Quotes =-= =-= http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~seidl/lawsuit -=-
Well, I think I solved the problem myself. I added "localhost.localdomain" to my access.db and gave it relaying permissions. I am sure that this is a work-around and that I have something misconfigured in mailman, but I can't find it.
At any rate, everyone is getting their messages now.
John
At 09:14 AM 2/27/2001 -0800, you wrote:
We're using Mailman to manage many lists. Our announcement list is very large, 50,000+ users.
Whenever we post a message to the very large list, posts stop flowing from the others.
I've looked through the Mailman source to figure out why, and I'm stumped. It seems to me that nothing should be impeding the other lists from injecting their messages into the queue, interleaved with the mass mailout from the announcement list.
If I add a new member to a list, that member gets their welcome message instantly. So there isn't a fundamental resource limitation here. A post to that list, however, doesn't get through.
Any suggestions on how to fix this?
-- Neil Kandalgaonkar Web App Developer, ActiveState
Neil Kandalgaonkar wrote:
This might not be mailman's doing. This may be your MTA. If it's toobusy spitting out messages, it'll refuse new connections till the load drops. I know sendmail will stop receiving email if the system load gets too high. It will also throttle itself if you have a high volume of messages going through, and again, new messages will not be posted.
AMK4-- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. |____________________________________________________________________
Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ashley@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130
SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130
Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . eFax 248.671.0909
http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6
.................. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:54:02 -0800, Neil Kandalgaonkar writes:
I'm a total mailman neophite, but I'll take a stab.
I believe that mailman hands the mail and to list to sendmail syncronisly. So that qrunner waits till sendmail returns before it goes on. So it may take some time on a big chuck.
I believe a future release will have more multi-threading here, and better qfile handling. But I should let the master's speak.
-=- Matthew L. Seidl email: seidl@cs.colorado.edu =-= =-= Graduate Student Project . . . What Project? -=- -=- http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~seidl/Home.html -Morrow Quotes =-= =-= http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~seidl/lawsuit -=-
Well, I think I solved the problem myself. I added "localhost.localdomain" to my access.db and gave it relaying permissions. I am sure that this is a work-around and that I have something misconfigured in mailman, but I can't find it.
At any rate, everyone is getting their messages now.
John
At 09:14 AM 2/27/2001 -0800, you wrote:
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