I have a curious situation. I could fix it, so there is no hurry to find a better solution, but I wonder where I failed :-).
I have a domain name (culte.org) that hold a mailman mailing lists server.
Under this domain, there is a (virtual) network. The real server is savage-reborn.culte.org
When mailman send the messages to the lists, no problem at all, the return path is <list-name>@culte.org
but when mailman send the monthly reminder, the return path is <listname>@savage-reborn.culte.org.
some recipients do not like to have the extra "savage-reborn" part and refuse the mail.
I don't know where I could change this without disturbing the server's working.
The MTA is postfix.
I could solve the problem adding savage-reborn in culte.org zone definitions.
any idea?
thanks jd
jdd wrote:
When mailman send the messages to the lists, no problem at all, the return path is <list-name>@culte.org
but when mailman send the monthly reminder, the return path is <listname>@savage-reborn.culte.org.
some recipients do not like to have the extra "savage-reborn" part and refuse the mail.
I don't know where I could change this without disturbing the server's working.
I'm a bit confused as to what you mean by return path. If you actually mean the Return-Path: header, it should be <list-name>-bounces@... in the case of list posts and mailman-bounces@... in the case of password reminders.
In any case, look at the host_name attribute of the 'mailman' site list on the list's General Options page and if it is savage-reborn.culte.org, change it to culte.org.
If this is not the issue, I think I'd need to see the full headers from a password reminder to understand the problem.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Le 03/07/2012 05:22, Mark Sapiro a écrit :
I'm a bit confused as to what you mean by return path. If you actually mean the Return-Path: header,
yes
it should be<list-name>-bounces@... in
the case of list posts and mailman-bounces@... in the case of password reminders.
yes it's
linux-31-bounces@culte.org for usual messages
and
mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org
for the reminder message
In any case, look at the host_name attribute of the 'mailman' site list on the list's General Options page and if it is savage-reborn.culte.org, change it to culte.org.
it is culte.org
If this is not the issue, I think I'd need to see the full headers from a password reminder to understand the problem.
below one of the return message (less the user adress). I guess I misconfigured some of the internal mailman (or postfix) config file :-(.
thanks jdd
Return-Path: <mailman-loop@culte.org> X-Original-To: jdd@dodin.org Delivered-To: jdd@dodin.org Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org (ram31-1-82-234-76-241.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.76.241]) by dodin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA65252A for <jdd@dodin.org>; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by savage-reborn.culte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DFE402A3 for <jdd@dodin.org>; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:01:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-To: mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org Delivered-To: mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org Received: by savage-reborn.culte.org (Postfix) id 4812B402FA; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:50 +0200 (CEST) From: MAILER-DAEMON@culte.org (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org Auto-Submitted: auto-replied MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="8CFA740307.1341111650/savage-reborn.culte.org" Message-Id: <20120701030050.4812B402FA@savage-reborn.culte.org> Errors-To: mailman-loop@culte.org Sender: mailman-loop@culte.org
This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
--8CFA740307.1341111650/savage-reborn.culte.org Content-Description: Notification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
This is the mail system at host savage-reborn.culte.org.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system<emmXXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr>: host n7smtp2.enseeiht.fr[147.127.176.23] said: 553 5.1.8 <emmXXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr>... Domain of sender address mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org does not exist (in reply to RCPT TO command)
--8CFA740307.1341111650/savage-reborn.culte.org Content-Description: Delivery report Content-Type: message/delivery-status
Reporting-MTA: dns; savage-reborn.culte.org X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8CFA740307 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org Arrival-Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:39 +0200 (CEST)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; emXXXXX@enseeiht.fr Original-Recipient: rfc822;emmXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr Action: failed Status: 5.1.8 Remote-MTA: dns; n7smtp2.enseeiht.fr Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 5.1.8 <emmaXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr>... Domain of sender address mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org does not exist
--8CFA740307.1341111650/savage-reborn.culte.org Content-Description: Undelivered Message Content-Type: message/rfc822
Return-Path: <mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org> Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by savage-reborn.culte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFA740307 for <emXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr>; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:39 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rappel_pour_les_abonnements_aux_listes_sur_culte?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=2Eorg?= From: mailman-owner@culte.org To: emXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr X-No-Archive: yes Message-ID: <mailman.109.1341111612.16543.mailman@savage-reborn.culte.org> Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2012 05:00:12 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: mailman@savage-reborn.culte.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 List-Id: <mailman.savage-reborn.culte.org> X-List-Administrivia: yes Errors-To: mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org Sender: mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org
Ceci est un rappel, envoy=E9 une fois par mois, concernant vos abonnements aux listes de culte.org. Il contient vos param=E8tres d'abonnement et la marche =E0 suivre pour les changer ou r=E9silier votre abonnement =E0 une liste.
Vous pouvez utiliser l'interface web pour changer votre statut ou vos param=E8tres d'abonnement, vous pouvez aussi y r=E9silier votre abonnement, choisir de recevoir les messages en mode group=E9 ou encore d=E9sactiver toute r=E9ception de messages (par exemple si vous partez en vacances), etc.
En plus de l'interface web, vous pouvez proc=E9der =E0 ces modifications par courrier =E9lectronique. Pour plus d'information, envoyez un message =E0 l'adresse '-request' de la liste (par exemple mailman-request@culte.org) contenant uniquement le mot 'help' dans le corps du message, vous recevrez alors un courrier vous indiquant la marche =E0 suivre.
Si vous avez des questions, des probl=E8mes, des commentaires, etc., envoyez-les =E0 mailman-owner@culte.org. Merci !
Mots de passe pour emmXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr: =
Liste Mot de passe // URL ---- -------- =
linux-31@culte.org YYYYYYY =
http://culte.org/mailman/options/linux-31/eXXXXXXX%40enseeiht.fr
--8CFA740307.1341111650/savage-reborn.culte.org--
On 7/2/2012 11:26 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 03/07/2012 05:22, Mark Sapiro a écrit :
In any case, look at the host_name attribute of the 'mailman' site list on the list's General Options page and if it is savage-reborn.culte.org, change it to culte.org.
it is culte.org
There are several things in the message below that say that is not the case and that the host_name of the 'mailman' list is savage-reborn.culte.org
below one of the return message (less the user adress). I guess I misconfigured some of the internal mailman (or postfix) config file :-(.
Note that there are two messages involved here. There is the original password reminder that was undeliverable and there is the DSN to you notifying you of the undeliverable message
Return-Path: <mailman-loop@culte.org>
The above domain is normally the result of looking up DEFAULT_URL_HOST in VIRTUAL_HOSTS which in turn is normally DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST.
X-Original-To: jdd@dodin.org Delivered-To: jdd@dodin.org Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org (ram31-1-82-234-76-241.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.76.241]) by dodin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA65252A for <jdd@dodin.org>; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by savage-reborn.culte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DFE402A3 for <jdd@dodin.org>; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:01:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-To: mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org
The above indicates the envelope sender of the original reminder was mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org.
Delivered-To: mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org Received: by savage-reborn.culte.org (Postfix) id 4812B402FA; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:50 +0200 (CEST) From: MAILER-DAEMON@culte.org (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org Auto-Submitted: auto-replied MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="8CFA740307.1341111650/savage-reborn.culte.org" Message-Id: <20120701030050.4812B402FA@savage-reborn.culte.org> Errors-To: mailman-loop@culte.org Sender: mailman-loop@culte.org
This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
--8CFA740307.1341111650/savage-reborn.culte.org Content-Description: Notification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
This is the mail system at host savage-reborn.culte.org.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system<emmXXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr>: host n7smtp2.enseeiht.fr[147.127.176.23] said: 553 5.1.8 <emmXXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr>... Domain of sender address mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org does not exist (in reply to RCPT TO command)
--8CFA740307.1341111650/savage-reborn.culte.org Content-Description: Delivery report Content-Type: message/delivery-status
Reporting-MTA: dns; savage-reborn.culte.org X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8CFA740307 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org Arrival-Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:39 +0200 (CEST)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; emXXXXX@enseeiht.fr Original-Recipient: rfc822;emmXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr Action: failed Status: 5.1.8 Remote-MTA: dns; n7smtp2.enseeiht.fr Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 5.1.8 <emmaXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr>... Domain of sender address mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org does not exist
--8CFA740307.1341111650/savage-reborn.culte.org Content-Description: Undelivered Message Content-Type: message/rfc822
The original reminder follows.
There are several occurrences of savage-reborn.culte.org, some of which (List-ID: in particular) would not have been rewritten by Postfix and all of which originate from the host_name of the 'mailman' list.
Please note I am talking about the host_name of the list named 'mailman', not the list named 'linux-31'
Return-Path: <mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Received: from savage-reborn.culte.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by savage-reborn.culte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFA740307 for <emXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr>; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 05:00:39 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rappel_pour_les_abonnements_aux_listes_sur_culte?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=2Eorg?= From: mailman-owner@culte.org To: emXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr X-No-Archive: yes Message-ID: <mailman.109.1341111612.16543.mailman@savage-reborn.culte.org> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2012 05:00:12 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: mailman@savage-reborn.culte.org ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 List-Id: <mailman.savage-reborn.culte.org> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
X-List-Administrivia: yes Errors-To: mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sender: mailman-bounces@savage-reborn.culte.org ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ceci est un rappel, envoy=E9 une fois par mois, concernant vos abonnements aux listes de culte.org. Il contient vos param=E8tres d'abonnement et la marche =E0 suivre pour les changer ou r=E9silier votre abonnement =E0 une liste.
Vous pouvez utiliser l'interface web pour changer votre statut ou vos param=E8tres d'abonnement, vous pouvez aussi y r=E9silier votre abonnement, choisir de recevoir les messages en mode group=E9 ou encore d=E9sactiver toute r=E9ception de messages (par exemple si vous partez en vacances), etc.
En plus de l'interface web, vous pouvez proc=E9der =E0 ces modifications par courrier =E9lectronique. Pour plus d'information, envoyez un message =E0 l'adresse '-request' de la liste (par exemple mailman-request@culte.org) contenant uniquement le mot 'help' dans le corps du message, vous recevrez alors un courrier vous indiquant la marche =E0 suivre.
Si vous avez des questions, des probl=E8mes, des commentaires, etc., envoyez-les =E0 mailman-owner@culte.org. Merci !
Mots de passe pour emmXXXXXX@enseeiht.fr: =
Liste Mot de passe // URL ---- -------- =
linux-31@culte.org YYYYYYY =
http://culte.org/mailman/options/linux-31/eXXXXXXX%40enseeiht.fr
--8CFA740307.1341111650/savage-reborn.culte.org--
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Le 03/07/2012 09:08, Mark Sapiro a écrit :
Please note I am talking about the host_name of the list named 'mailman', not the list named 'linux-31'
got it!!!
this list is not listed in the web sreeen, so I even forgot it existed!
of course there where the error (probably because it was the first configured one, when my knowledge was even lower than now :-()
thanks a lot.
Your work for mailman is an example of what can be done for the best. Impressive. Thanks again
jdd
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