On 8/30/06, Mark Sapiro msapiro@value.net wrote:

Anders Norrbring wrote:

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Simple question, would it be possible to run mailman on one host, and the Postfix MTA on another host?

The reason is that I'm configuring a new in/outgoing server that eventually should take over the "old" one, the old should keep the web server functionality, so I'd like to split things up.

If it can be done, any hints on how?

Using a different host for outgoing mail is simple. Just set SMTPHOST in mm_cfg.py.

Incoming mail to Mailman is more difficult. This has been discussed before on this list. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.018.htp for searching information.

You also need to have DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' But this is likely already set.

In some ways you are using the new machine as a proxy. I found this link to be helpful. http://www.muine.org/~hoang/postfix.html

It is however both for an older version of postfix and for Sun. Still I thought it laid it out clearly.

Anders Norrbring skrev:

Eric Howland skrev:

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On 8/30/06, Mark Sapiro msapiro@value.net wrote:

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Anders Norrbring wrote:

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Simple question, would it be possible to run mailman on one host, and the Postfix MTA on another host?

The reason is that I'm configuring a new in/outgoing server that eventually should take over the "old" one, the old should keep the web server functionality, so I'd like to split things up.

If it can be done, any hints on how?

Using a different host for outgoing mail is simple. Just set SMTPHOST in mm_cfg.py.

Incoming mail to Mailman is more difficult. This has been discussed before on this list. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.018.htp for searching information.

I'm having troubles finding info on this matter.. Probably because English isn't my native language, so I guess I just don't get the search terms right to get relevant results.

Anyway, more info would be really useful.

Thanks, Anders.

Mark Sapiro skrev:

Anders Norrbring wrote:

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I'm having troubles finding info on this matter.. Probably because English isn't my native language, so I guess I just don't get the search terms right to get relevant results.

Try the threads starting at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/041819.html and http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-November/047646.html

Both of the above were found with http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amail.python.org+inurl%3Amailman+fetchmail.

Thanks Mark, But I don't feel that fetchmail would be the right way for me...

I'm thinking that maybe I can mount the mailman executable directory from the webserver as a NFS share, and then run "as usual".

Would that work?

Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting

Patrick Bogen skrev:

On 10/6/06, Anders Norrbring lists@norrbring.se wrote:

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Thanks Mark, But I don't feel that fetchmail would be the right way for me...

I'm thinking that maybe I can mount the mailman executable directory from the webserver as a NFS share, and then run "as usual".

Would that work?

While this is theoretically possible ('all' the mailman executables need is to be able to access the configuration files and access the qfiles), you're basically just installing mailman on your mail server, with extra, needless, layers of complexity.

The best way, really, to do this is to either (a) use fetchmail, or (b) set up your real mail server to forward the appropriate mail (i.e., the mailman messages) to the MTA on the mailman machine. (a) will be simpler, maybe (I've never actually done that.) (b) seems like a 'better' solution, to me.

Hmm.. Forwarding should do it I guess. The goal I'm aiming for is to split off all webserver activity from the mail host.. I guess that's clearly doable, I think the only thing would be to set up the Postfix on the webserver to use a subdomain for the lists, otherwise everything would loop back to the first SMTP. At least in my theory.. :)