Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsub in the Mmembership List Does Not Work
On 11/9/2012 2:37 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Vladimir Mikhelson wrote:
The address was fine as far as I can tell, no special characters, no mixed case.
The only relevant record in subscribe is as follows:
Nov 09 11:48:05 2012 (14361) surcharge-letter: deleted user@domain.tld; admin mass unsub
And presumably that's the mass unsub you did after the checkbox unsub failed.
Can you set user options frem the membership list, e.g. set mod, ack, hide, etc. on and off for a user?
Yes, I can. I have tried "nomail" and "ack" back and forth with no problems.
Vladimir Mikhelson wrote:
Yes, I can. I have tried "nomail" and "ack" back and forth with no problems.
Then I don't know what the issue might be. The unsub checkbox works for me. What is your Mailman version? Is there an appropriate POST transaction in your web server logs from when you did the 'unsub'?
If you look at the source of a membership list page in your browser, does a typical row look as follows except for the actual user name and address and the available languages?
<tr>
<td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_unsub"type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><a href="../../options/gpc-test/mark--at--msapiro.net">mark@msapiro.net</a><br><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_realname" type="TEXT" value="Mark Sapiro" size="22" >
</td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_mod" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_hide" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_nomail" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_ack" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_notmetoo" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_nodupes" type="CHECKBOX" value="on" CHECKED ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_digest" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_plain" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center> <Select name="mark%40msapiro.net_language"> <option value="ca"> Catalan </option> <option value="de"> German </option> <option value="el"> Greek </option> <option value="en" Selected> English (USA) </option> <option value="es"> Spanish (Spain) </option> <option value="fr"> French </option> <option value="he"> Hebrew </option> <option value="ja"> Japanese </option> <option value="pt_BR"> Portuguese (Brazil) </option> <option value="ru"> Russian </option> </Select></center></td> </tr>
-- Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 11/9/2012 3:08 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Vladimir Mikhelson wrote:
Yes, I can. I have tried "nomail" and "ack" back and forth with no problems.
Then I don't know what the issue might be. The unsub checkbox works for me. What is your Mailman version? Is there an appropriate POST transaction in your web server logs from when you did the 'unsub'?
If you look at the source of a membership list page in your browser, does a typical row look as follows except for the actual user name and address and the available languages?
<tr> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_unsub"type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><a href="../../options/gpc-test/mark--at--msapiro.net">mark@msapiro.net</a><br><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_realname" type="TEXT" value="Mark Sapiro" size="22" >
</td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_mod" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_hide" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_nomail" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_ack" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_notmetoo" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_nodupes" type="CHECKBOX" value="on" CHECKED ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_digest" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center><INPUT name="mark%40msapiro.net_plain" type="CHECKBOX" value="off" ></center></td> <td><center> <Select name="mark%40msapiro.net_language"> <option value="ca"> Catalan </option> <option value="de"> German </option> <option value="el"> Greek </option> <option value="en" Selected> English (USA) </option> <option value="es"> Spanish (Spain) </option> <option value="fr"> French </option> <option value="he"> Hebrew </option> <option value="ja"> Japanese </option> <option value="pt_BR"> Portuguese (Brazil) </option> <option value="ru"> Russian </option> </Select></center></td> </tr>
I hear you. As I wrote in my followup e-mail I suspect initial list setup inconsistencies. I am still waiting to hear what you think about this theory. In a meantime I tried to add a new subscriber and was able to delete them with no issue.
Nov 09 14:57:45 2012 (19561) surcharge-letter: new vlad@hollebcons.com, admin mass sub Nov 09 14:58:14 2012 (19663) surcharge-letter: deleted vlad@hollebcons.com; member mgt page
Mailman version 2.1.15 Pyphon version: 2.7.3
On 11/9/2012 2:55 PM, Vladimir Mikhelson wrote:
On 11/9/2012 2:37 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Vladimir Mikhelson wrote:
The address was fine as far as I can tell, no special characters, no mixed case.
The only relevant record in subscribe is as follows:
Nov 09 11:48:05 2012 (14361) surcharge-letter: deleted user@domain.tld; admin mass unsub And presumably that's the mass unsub you did after the checkbox unsub failed.
Can you set user options frem the membership list, e.g. set mod, ack, hide, etc. on and off for a user?
Yes, I can. I have tried "nomail" and "ack" back and forth with no problems.
I suspect the problem can be related to the initial setup inconsistencies I observed working with this list. See my posting "Cannot Modify MOD on the Membership List in the Mailman Admin WEB UI" dated 09/08/2012.
I eventually followed the instructions published here: http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030592 After that the Membership List page started working.
But I did not modify the Apache rewrite rules per http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/4.27+Securing+Mailman%27s+web+GUI+by+using+...
Do you think it can be related?
Vladimir Mikhelson wrote:
But I did not modify the Apache rewrite rules per http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/4.27+Securing+Mailman%27s+web+GUI+by+using+...
Do you think it can be related?
It's possible, but unlikely. If that were the issue, most likely you wouldn't be able to change the user options either, but are you redirecting/rewriting from http to https, and if so, if you view the source of the membership list page, what is the value of the action= string in the FORM tag?
-- Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 11/9/2012 3:30 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Vladimir Mikhelson wrote:
But I did not modify the Apache rewrite rules per http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/4.27+Securing+Mailman%27s+web+GUI+by+using+...
Do you think it can be related?
It's possible, but unlikely. If that were the issue, most likely you wouldn't be able to change the user options either, but are you redirecting/rewriting from http to https, and if so, if you view the source of the membership list page, what is the value of the action= string in the FORM tag?
<FORM action="https://host.domain.tld/mailman/admin/list/members?letter=v <view-source:https://cormonunx.corp.e-magellan.com/mailman/admin/surcharge-letter/members?letter=v>" method="POST" enctype="multipart/form-data">
Vladimir Mikhelson wrote:
On 11/9/2012 3:30 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Vladimir Mikhelson wrote:
But I did not modify the Apache rewrite rules per http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/4.27+Securing+Mailman%27s+web+GUI+by+using+...
Do you think it can be related?
It's possible, but unlikely. If that were the issue, most likely you wouldn't be able to change the user options either, but are you redirecting/rewriting from http to https, and if so, if you view the source of the membership list page, what is the value of the action= string in the FORM tag?
<FORM action="https://host.domain.tld/mailman/admin/list/members?letter=v
There is a possible problem. It appears that you asked for the source of an https URL. what do you get if you ask for an http URL?
I don't think it's likely, but if you go to an http URL and get a form with an action= with an http URL and the web server redirects/rewrites the POST url to https, it can lose the post data. This is the issue of the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/ioA9.
As I say. I don't think that's likely, but it could explain an intermittent issue if sometimes you get the page via http and other times via https.
-- Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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