I started a mailing list for 'Blinkies' and 99% of the messages that come thru are in HTML. They come thru my list just fine, but the archives are majorly ugly. Is there a way to have the HTML messages display in HTML in the archives?
Using 2.1 Release. :)
Thanks!
Jim Hale
'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself" - Me, 1990
Visit Our MIDI & Digital Audio Website at http://hale.dyndns.org
Use something like Mhonarc as your archive application. Pipermail doesn't do a good job with html.
Another alternative is to write a small script that converts the html into text inside the mbox that the archive program uses (lynx will help you do this). Then you can delete the old archives and re-archive using the ~mailman/bin/arch command.
I'm still playing with version 2.1 of Mailman so I don't know if it has this functionality built into it.
Jon Carnes
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 22:15, Jim Hale wrote:
Is it possible to set up Mhonarc without re-archiving everything, and then try re-archiving using Mhonarc, but have things such that if I can't get Mhonarc working I can easily re-archive with Pipermail? The FAQ still says "A HOWTO for this was posted to the mailman-developers list and should be copied in here once someone finds it." Basically, my setup is such that I don't particularly care if the archives have to be down for a few hours or even days, but changing to Mhonarc isn't so important that I want to try it if things might go wrong and leave me with NO archives - especially seeing as I don't really know anything about Mhonarc, except that everyone seems to thinks it's better than Pipermail.
Thanks,
Greg
greg@gregwestin.com http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php
On 15 Jan 2003, Jon Carnes wrote:
I went and pulled mhonarc and have it installed but I need to find out how to make Mailman look at it instead of Pipermail - problem is that I'm running all this on an SME server so everything is not in the exact location like in the instructions.
I guess you could say that I'm running 'specialized' versions of Mailman/Mhonarc/HTDig that someone packaged up specifically for the SME Server - just hoping maybe someone here has run into the same situation.
Thanks! :)
Jim Hale
'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself" - Me, 1990
Visit Our MIDI & Digital Audio Website at http://hale.dyndns.org
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org] On Behalf Of Jon Carnes Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:16 AM To: Jim Hale Cc: Mailing List - Mailman Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives in HTML?
Use something like Mhonarc as your archive application. Pipermail doesn't do a good job with html.
Another alternative is to write a small script that converts the html into text inside the mbox that the archive program uses (lynx will help you do this). Then you can delete the old archives and re-archive using the ~mailman/bin/arch command.
I'm still playing with version 2.1 of Mailman so I don't know if it has this functionality built into it.
Jon Carnes
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 22:15, Jim Hale wrote:
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- Jim Hale (jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org) wrote:
First I don't know what SME means (sorry for my ignorance). So I hope this applies to you. There are a few ways to do this. I'd say 2 of the easiest are as follows.
See the ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX section in Mailman/Defaults.py and set the setting as you need to in mm_cfg.py.
Use the existing mbox file located in archives/private/<listname>.mbox/<listname>.mbox
Then you can point mhonarc to that file and update from that file. The rest is configuring mhonarc and its templates to suite your needs.
With this option you would have to regenerate occasionally. I'm sure theres a way to have it generate on the fly, but I don't know enough about mailman or python to do it.
Subscribe an archive (ie mhonarc@list.domain) user to all your lists and use his mbox to generate the archvies with.
With this option you can have the archives rebuild as mail comes in with procmail filters or whatever you use.
Not sure what you mean by 'specialized' versions. And I hope this applies to your 'specialized' system.
| Matthew Davis /\ http://dogpound.vnet.net/ | |--------------------------------------------| | Wednesday, January 15, 2003 / 10:17PM |
Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route.
Believe me - I'M the ignorant one when it comes to this. :)
The SME Server is just a distribution of Linux (www.e-smith.org) that has all the stuff built in to run everything for web that you configure via a web interface. The 'specialized' version of stuff I was talking about was just packaged by another SME Server user that places the files where they need to be for THAT particular distribution - hence the files aren't in the 'usual' place per the installation instructions for mhonarc.
Like, my archives are located in /opt/mailman/archives and mhonarc is located in /opt/mailman/mhonarc instead of /var/mhonarc. So I'm all confused. :/
Jim Hale
'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself" - Me, 1990
Visit Our MIDI & Digital Audio Website at http://hale.dyndns.org
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Davis Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:28 PM To: Jim Hale Cc: 'Mailing List - Mailman' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives in HTML?
- Jim Hale (jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org) wrote:
I went and pulled mhonarc and have it installed but I need to find out
First I don't know what SME means (sorry for my ignorance). So I hope this applies to you. There are a few ways to do this. I'd say 2 of the easiest are as follows.
See the ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX section in Mailman/Defaults.py and set the setting as you need to in mm_cfg.py.
Use the existing mbox file located in archives/private/<listname>.mbox/<listname>.mbox
Then you can point mhonarc to that file and update from that file. The rest is configuring mhonarc and its templates to suite your needs.
With this option you would have to regenerate occasionally. I'm sure theres a way to have it generate on the fly, but I don't know enough about mailman or python to do it.
Subscribe an archive (ie mhonarc@list.domain) user to all your lists and use his mbox to generate the archvies with.
With this option you can have the archives rebuild as mail comes in with procmail filters or whatever you use.
Not sure what you mean by 'specialized' versions. And I hope this applies to your 'specialized' system.
| Matthew Davis /\ http://dogpound.vnet.net/ | |--------------------------------------------| | Wednesday, January 15, 2003 / 10:17PM |
Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route.
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
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- Jim Hale (jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org) wrote:
Believe me - I'M the ignorant one when it comes to this. :)
Then there's only one thing to do, and thats learn :)
Alright, that makes some more sense.
So the previous instructions should still work. Just output the mhonarc web files to the location you want on your web server.
| Matthew Davis /\ http://dogpound.vnet.net/ | |--------------------------------------------| | Wednesday, January 15, 2003 / 11:29PM |
C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\GO C:\PC\CRAWL
I shoulda just waited. :)
Someone sent a message to one of my lists and it automatically took care of the Archives. :)
Now I need to learn how to customize the display in Mhonarc - which as they say at the end of some movies, 'But that is another story...'
Thanks for the help! :)
Jim Hale
'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself" - Me, 1990
Visit Our MIDI & Digital Audio Website at http://hale.dyndns.org
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Davis Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:31 PM To: Jim Hale Cc: 'Mailing List - Mailman' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives in HTML?
- Jim Hale (jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org) wrote:
Believe me - I'M the ignorant one when it comes to this. :)
Then there's only one thing to do, and thats learn :)
Alright, that makes some more sense.
So the previous instructions should still work. Just output the mhonarc web files to the location you want on your web server.
| Matthew Davis /\ http://dogpound.vnet.net/ | |--------------------------------------------| | Wednesday, January 15, 2003 / 11:29PM |
C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\GO C:\PC\CRAWL
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
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"JH" == Jim Hale <jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org> writes:
JH> I started a mailing list for 'Blinkies' and 99% of the
JH> messages that come thru are in HTML. They come thru my list
JH> just fine, but the archives are majorly ugly. Is there a way
JH> to have the HTML messages display in HTML in the archives?
JH> Using 2.1 Release. :)While others have given good advice about mhonarc, you might also want to look at the ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER variable in Defaults.py. It controls what Pipermail does with html attachements.
-Barry
Thanks Barry - I already got MHonArc running - just need to learn how to customize how the screens Look. :)
Jim Hale
'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself" - Me, 1990
Visit Our MIDI & Digital Audio Website at http://hale.dyndns.org
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org] On Behalf Of Barry A. Warsaw Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:00 PM To: Jim Hale Cc: Mailing List - Mailman Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives in HTML?
"JH" == Jim Hale <jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org> writes:
JH> I started a mailing list for 'Blinkies' and 99% of the
JH> messages that come thru are in HTML. They come thru my list
JH> just fine, but the archives are majorly ugly. Is there a way
JH> to have the HTML messages display in HTML in the archives?
JH> Using 2.1 Release. :)While others have given good advice about mhonarc, you might also want to look at the ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER variable in Defaults.py. It controls what Pipermail does with html attachements.
-Barry
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
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Use something like Mhonarc as your archive application. Pipermail doesn't do a good job with html.
Another alternative is to write a small script that converts the html into text inside the mbox that the archive program uses (lynx will help you do this). Then you can delete the old archives and re-archive using the ~mailman/bin/arch command.
I'm still playing with version 2.1 of Mailman so I don't know if it has this functionality built into it.
Jon Carnes
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 22:15, Jim Hale wrote:
Is it possible to set up Mhonarc without re-archiving everything, and then try re-archiving using Mhonarc, but have things such that if I can't get Mhonarc working I can easily re-archive with Pipermail? The FAQ still says "A HOWTO for this was posted to the mailman-developers list and should be copied in here once someone finds it." Basically, my setup is such that I don't particularly care if the archives have to be down for a few hours or even days, but changing to Mhonarc isn't so important that I want to try it if things might go wrong and leave me with NO archives - especially seeing as I don't really know anything about Mhonarc, except that everyone seems to thinks it's better than Pipermail.
Thanks,
Greg
greg@gregwestin.com http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php
On 15 Jan 2003, Jon Carnes wrote:
I went and pulled mhonarc and have it installed but I need to find out how to make Mailman look at it instead of Pipermail - problem is that I'm running all this on an SME server so everything is not in the exact location like in the instructions.
I guess you could say that I'm running 'specialized' versions of Mailman/Mhonarc/HTDig that someone packaged up specifically for the SME Server - just hoping maybe someone here has run into the same situation.
Thanks! :)
Jim Hale
'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself" - Me, 1990
Visit Our MIDI & Digital Audio Website at http://hale.dyndns.org
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org] On Behalf Of Jon Carnes Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:16 AM To: Jim Hale Cc: Mailing List - Mailman Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives in HTML?
Use something like Mhonarc as your archive application. Pipermail doesn't do a good job with html.
Another alternative is to write a small script that converts the html into text inside the mbox that the archive program uses (lynx will help you do this). Then you can delete the old archives and re-archive using the ~mailman/bin/arch command.
I'm still playing with version 2.1 of Mailman so I don't know if it has this functionality built into it.
Jon Carnes
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 22:15, Jim Hale wrote:
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
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- Jim Hale (jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org) wrote:
First I don't know what SME means (sorry for my ignorance). So I hope this applies to you. There are a few ways to do this. I'd say 2 of the easiest are as follows.
See the ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX section in Mailman/Defaults.py and set the setting as you need to in mm_cfg.py.
Use the existing mbox file located in archives/private/<listname>.mbox/<listname>.mbox
Then you can point mhonarc to that file and update from that file. The rest is configuring mhonarc and its templates to suite your needs.
With this option you would have to regenerate occasionally. I'm sure theres a way to have it generate on the fly, but I don't know enough about mailman or python to do it.
Subscribe an archive (ie mhonarc@list.domain) user to all your lists and use his mbox to generate the archvies with.
With this option you can have the archives rebuild as mail comes in with procmail filters or whatever you use.
Not sure what you mean by 'specialized' versions. And I hope this applies to your 'specialized' system.
| Matthew Davis /\ http://dogpound.vnet.net/ | |--------------------------------------------| | Wednesday, January 15, 2003 / 10:17PM |
Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route.
Believe me - I'M the ignorant one when it comes to this. :)
The SME Server is just a distribution of Linux (www.e-smith.org) that has all the stuff built in to run everything for web that you configure via a web interface. The 'specialized' version of stuff I was talking about was just packaged by another SME Server user that places the files where they need to be for THAT particular distribution - hence the files aren't in the 'usual' place per the installation instructions for mhonarc.
Like, my archives are located in /opt/mailman/archives and mhonarc is located in /opt/mailman/mhonarc instead of /var/mhonarc. So I'm all confused. :/
Jim Hale
'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself" - Me, 1990
Visit Our MIDI & Digital Audio Website at http://hale.dyndns.org
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Davis Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:28 PM To: Jim Hale Cc: 'Mailing List - Mailman' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives in HTML?
- Jim Hale (jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org) wrote:
I went and pulled mhonarc and have it installed but I need to find out
First I don't know what SME means (sorry for my ignorance). So I hope this applies to you. There are a few ways to do this. I'd say 2 of the easiest are as follows.
See the ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX section in Mailman/Defaults.py and set the setting as you need to in mm_cfg.py.
Use the existing mbox file located in archives/private/<listname>.mbox/<listname>.mbox
Then you can point mhonarc to that file and update from that file. The rest is configuring mhonarc and its templates to suite your needs.
With this option you would have to regenerate occasionally. I'm sure theres a way to have it generate on the fly, but I don't know enough about mailman or python to do it.
Subscribe an archive (ie mhonarc@list.domain) user to all your lists and use his mbox to generate the archvies with.
With this option you can have the archives rebuild as mail comes in with procmail filters or whatever you use.
Not sure what you mean by 'specialized' versions. And I hope this applies to your 'specialized' system.
| Matthew Davis /\ http://dogpound.vnet.net/ | |--------------------------------------------| | Wednesday, January 15, 2003 / 10:17PM |
Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route.
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
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- Jim Hale (jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org) wrote:
Believe me - I'M the ignorant one when it comes to this. :)
Then there's only one thing to do, and thats learn :)
Alright, that makes some more sense.
So the previous instructions should still work. Just output the mhonarc web files to the location you want on your web server.
| Matthew Davis /\ http://dogpound.vnet.net/ | |--------------------------------------------| | Wednesday, January 15, 2003 / 11:29PM |
C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\GO C:\PC\CRAWL
I shoulda just waited. :)
Someone sent a message to one of my lists and it automatically took care of the Archives. :)
Now I need to learn how to customize the display in Mhonarc - which as they say at the end of some movies, 'But that is another story...'
Thanks for the help! :)
Jim Hale
'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself" - Me, 1990
Visit Our MIDI & Digital Audio Website at http://hale.dyndns.org
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Davis Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:31 PM To: Jim Hale Cc: 'Mailing List - Mailman' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives in HTML?
- Jim Hale (jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org) wrote:
Believe me - I'M the ignorant one when it comes to this. :)
Then there's only one thing to do, and thats learn :)
Alright, that makes some more sense.
So the previous instructions should still work. Just output the mhonarc web files to the location you want on your web server.
| Matthew Davis /\ http://dogpound.vnet.net/ | |--------------------------------------------| | Wednesday, January 15, 2003 / 11:29PM |
C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\GO C:\PC\CRAWL
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
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"JH" == Jim Hale <jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org> writes:
JH> I started a mailing list for 'Blinkies' and 99% of the
JH> messages that come thru are in HTML. They come thru my list
JH> just fine, but the archives are majorly ugly. Is there a way
JH> to have the HTML messages display in HTML in the archives?
JH> Using 2.1 Release. :)While others have given good advice about mhonarc, you might also want to look at the ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER variable in Defaults.py. It controls what Pipermail does with html attachements.
-Barry
Thanks Barry - I already got MHonArc running - just need to learn how to customize how the screens Look. :)
Jim Hale
'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself" - Me, 1990
Visit Our MIDI & Digital Audio Website at http://hale.dyndns.org
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jim-ml=halemail.dyndns.org@python.org] On Behalf Of Barry A. Warsaw Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:00 PM To: Jim Hale Cc: Mailing List - Mailman Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives in HTML?
"JH" == Jim Hale <jim-ml@halemail.dyndns.org> writes:
JH> I started a mailing list for 'Blinkies' and 99% of the
JH> messages that come thru are in HTML. They come thru my list
JH> just fine, but the archives are majorly ugly. Is there a way
JH> to have the HTML messages display in HTML in the archives?
JH> Using 2.1 Release. :)While others have given good advice about mhonarc, you might also want to look at the ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER variable in Defaults.py. It controls what Pipermail does with html attachements.
-Barry
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
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