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I'm running 1.0b5 with apache 1.3 and python 1.5.1 on a DEC UNIX 4.0D machine (AlphaStation 200 166mhz), and some of my list members are getting multiple copies of the same message.. Also, I found that you cant "en masse" add more than 25 or so people at a time, or the operation bombs out with an "operation would block" message on the error bug page returned by the web browser...
bill
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"WB" == William Bradford <mrbill@frenzy.com> writes:
WB> I'm running 1.0b5 with apache 1.3 and python 1.5.1 on a DEC
WB> UNIX 4.0D machine (AlphaStation 200 166mhz), and some of my
WB> list members are getting multiple copies of the same message..
WB> Also, I found that you cant "en masse" add more than 25 or so
WB> people at a time, or the operation bombs out with an
WB> "operation would block" message on the error bug page returned
WB> by the web browser...
Bill,
We know that 1.0b5 has a bug that subscription acknowledgements are sent out twice. We haven't tracked this problem down yet. Are you saying that your members are also getting some posts more than once? I haven't seen that on my test lists, but it could still be happening (and possibly caused by the same bug that's sending out subscript acks twice).
-Barry
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On Thu, Jul 30, 1998 at 02:49:53PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
My users are getting list posts more than once (twice, three times, sometimes four or five copies of the same messages).
Never ran into a multiple-subscribe-ack problem (I added all my users manually, from another list software), but I also found that if I tried to add more than 25 users at a time or so I'd get error occurances with messages on the web page like "Operation would block", etc. That, however, may be a DEC UNIX limit problem and not a MailMan problem.
DU 4.0D / Sendmail 8.9.1 / Python 1.5.1 / MailMan 1.0b5, compiled with GCC (egcs 1.0.3a).
Currently, until I can get the multiple-posts problem fixed (I myself was getting the posts twice) I've got all my users back on Procmail/Smartlist. 8-(
-- Bill Bradford * mrbill@frenzy.com
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
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"WB" == William Bradford <mrbill@frenzy.com> writes:
WB> My users are getting list posts more than once (twice, three
WB> times, sometimes four or five copies of the same messages).
Dang, I suspect there are still problems with the SMTP support. I'm not up on that part of the code so for now, I'll leave it to Ken or John to look in to.
WB> Never ran into a multiple-subscribe-ack problem (I added all
WB> my users manually, from another list software), but I also
WB> found that if I tried to add more than 25 users at a time or
WB> so I'd get error occurances with messages on the web page like
WB> "Operation would block", etc. That, however, may be a DEC
WB> UNIX limit problem and not a MailMan problem.
Hmm.
WB> DU 4.0D / Sendmail 8.9.1 / Python 1.5.1 / MailMan 1.0b5,
WB> compiled with GCC (egcs 1.0.3a).
WB> Currently, until I can get the multiple-posts problem fixed (I
WB> myself was getting the posts twice) I've got all my users back
WB> on Procmail/Smartlist. 8-(
:-(
If nothing happens on this front over the weekend, I'll dig in.
-Barry
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On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 07:14:28PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
Whack that. I changed "Max number of outgoing connections" to 1 today, and it eliminated the multiple-copies-of-posts, but I'm seeing the double-ack problem now. My other problem ("Edit Options" was broke) has already been fixed. 8-)
:-(
I've been testing another list all day and its looking better. Just need to patch and recompile and reinstall.
BTW, did anyboyd else notice that all the python scripts are headed with "#! /usr/local/env python" instead of "#! <path to installed python executable>" ? I had to hand-edit all the stuff in bin/ and scripts/ to get it to work.
So far, so good. getting there gradually.
Bill
-- Bill Bradford * mrbill@frenzy.com
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
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"WB" == William Bradford <mrbill@frenzy.com> writes:
WB> BTW, did anyboyd else notice that all the python scripts are
WB> headed with "#! /usr/local/env python" instead of "#! <path to
WB> installed python executable>" ? I had to hand-edit all the
WB> stuff in bin/ and scripts/ to get it to work.
Really? That shouldn't be necessary. The idea is that anything that's exec'd by a wrapper script (CGI or mail) will have the full path hardcoded into the wrapper. For stuff you're going to run from a command shell, you want the python executable in your $PATH, then the "standard" Python convention #! line should do the trick.
Is something else going on? I'd rather not have to change this. -Barry
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"WB" == William Bradford <mrbill@frenzy.com> writes:
WB> I'm running 1.0b5 with apache 1.3 and python 1.5.1 on a DEC
WB> UNIX 4.0D machine (AlphaStation 200 166mhz), and some of my
WB> list members are getting multiple copies of the same message..
WB> Also, I found that you cant "en masse" add more than 25 or so
WB> people at a time, or the operation bombs out with an
WB> "operation would block" message on the error bug page returned
WB> by the web browser...
Bill,
We know that 1.0b5 has a bug that subscription acknowledgements are sent out twice. We haven't tracked this problem down yet. Are you saying that your members are also getting some posts more than once? I haven't seen that on my test lists, but it could still be happening (and possibly caused by the same bug that's sending out subscript acks twice).
-Barry
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On Thu, Jul 30, 1998 at 02:49:53PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
My users are getting list posts more than once (twice, three times, sometimes four or five copies of the same messages).
Never ran into a multiple-subscribe-ack problem (I added all my users manually, from another list software), but I also found that if I tried to add more than 25 users at a time or so I'd get error occurances with messages on the web page like "Operation would block", etc. That, however, may be a DEC UNIX limit problem and not a MailMan problem.
DU 4.0D / Sendmail 8.9.1 / Python 1.5.1 / MailMan 1.0b5, compiled with GCC (egcs 1.0.3a).
Currently, until I can get the multiple-posts problem fixed (I myself was getting the posts twice) I've got all my users back on Procmail/Smartlist. 8-(
-- Bill Bradford * mrbill@frenzy.com
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
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"WB" == William Bradford <mrbill@frenzy.com> writes:
WB> My users are getting list posts more than once (twice, three
WB> times, sometimes four or five copies of the same messages).
Dang, I suspect there are still problems with the SMTP support. I'm not up on that part of the code so for now, I'll leave it to Ken or John to look in to.
WB> Never ran into a multiple-subscribe-ack problem (I added all
WB> my users manually, from another list software), but I also
WB> found that if I tried to add more than 25 users at a time or
WB> so I'd get error occurances with messages on the web page like
WB> "Operation would block", etc. That, however, may be a DEC
WB> UNIX limit problem and not a MailMan problem.
Hmm.
WB> DU 4.0D / Sendmail 8.9.1 / Python 1.5.1 / MailMan 1.0b5,
WB> compiled with GCC (egcs 1.0.3a).
WB> Currently, until I can get the multiple-posts problem fixed (I
WB> myself was getting the posts twice) I've got all my users back
WB> on Procmail/Smartlist. 8-(
:-(
If nothing happens on this front over the weekend, I'll dig in.
-Barry
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On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 07:14:28PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
Whack that. I changed "Max number of outgoing connections" to 1 today, and it eliminated the multiple-copies-of-posts, but I'm seeing the double-ack problem now. My other problem ("Edit Options" was broke) has already been fixed. 8-)
:-(
I've been testing another list all day and its looking better. Just need to patch and recompile and reinstall.
BTW, did anyboyd else notice that all the python scripts are headed with "#! /usr/local/env python" instead of "#! <path to installed python executable>" ? I had to hand-edit all the stuff in bin/ and scripts/ to get it to work.
So far, so good. getting there gradually.
Bill
-- Bill Bradford * mrbill@frenzy.com
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
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"WB" == William Bradford <mrbill@frenzy.com> writes:
WB> BTW, did anyboyd else notice that all the python scripts are
WB> headed with "#! /usr/local/env python" instead of "#! <path to
WB> installed python executable>" ? I had to hand-edit all the
WB> stuff in bin/ and scripts/ to get it to work.
Really? That shouldn't be necessary. The idea is that anything that's exec'd by a wrapper script (CGI or mail) will have the full path hardcoded into the wrapper. For stuff you're going to run from a command shell, you want the python executable in your $PATH, then the "standard" Python convention #! line should do the trick.
Is something else going on? I'd rather not have to change this. -Barry
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