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Using mailman-2.6.x:
Is it possible to create a list (via CLI or the WUI) which has multiple owner addresses?
Why?
Often my users want lists with multiple owners, and so I need a way of EITHER:
- creating the list with multiple owners, all of which are getting the "Your list has been created"-email OR
- re-sending the "Your list has been created"-Email after I manually added the extra owners
Enlighten me!
-- Ralf Hildebrandt Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netz | Netzwerk-Administration Invalidenstraße 120/121 | D-10115 Berlin
Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 ralf.hildebrandt@charite.de https://www.charite.de
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On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 4:35 PM Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users < mailman-users@python.org> wrote:
Using mailman-2.6.x:
I never saw that version. Right now you'd be advised to run 2.1.39 if you must stick with 2.x
Is it possible to create a list (via CLI or the WUI) which has multiple
owner addresses?
Yes.
Option 1 - make multiple addresses get the "Your list has been created email":
It's easy enough to fake it during list creation. Just create an alias with the "multiple address" in your MTA and when prompted for the List admin address, enter the alias from above :-) No code change is needed.
Mailman3 makes it easier. You create a list and you can add multiple owners (Owners, moderators) later. They all use their own member profiles/credentials to manage the lists. For MM2, all list owners share the same password since no username is required, IIRC.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
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Did too much openvpn stuff recently, so I mistook openvpn-2.6.x with Mailman 2.1.39 (which I'm actually using).
Argh. That is an ugly hack. I helped myself by simply filling in my address, changing the admins and then bouncing the mail I received to the "new" admins.
-- Ralf Hildebrandt Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netz | Netzwerk-Administration Invalidenstraße 120/121 | D-10115 Berlin
Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 ralf.hildebrandt@charite.de https://www.charite.de
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On 3/14/24 06:15, Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users wrote:
Using mailman-2.6.x:
???
Is it possible to create a list (via CLI or the WUI) which has multiple owner addresses?
The normal CLI and web UI for both MM 2.1 and MM 3 only allow creating a list with a single owner, but you can then add as many owners as you like.
For MM 2.1 you can do this in the web admin UI or via Mailman's bin/config_list or bin/withlist.
For Mailman 3 you can do it in Postorius or via the REST API (see <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/m...>).
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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On 3/14/2024 8:56 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
For MM2, Mark gave me a patch to allow multiple owners; only the first one in the string was checked. But that was not a problem for me. Anyone who wants can contact me off-list, and I will try to see if I have that patch in my archives. I no longer have access to that Mailman system.
--Barry Finkel
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On 4/14/24 19:12, Barry S. Finkel wrote:
My post with the patch attached is at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/message/F225L...
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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- Barry S. Finkel <bsfinkel@att.net>:
For MM2, Mark gave me a patch to allow multiple owners;
I'd be interested :)
-- Ralf Hildebrandt Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netz | Netzwerk-Administration Invalidenstraße 120/121 | D-10115 Berlin
Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 ralf.hildebrandt@charite.de https://www.charite.de
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On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 4:35 PM Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users < mailman-users@python.org> wrote:
Using mailman-2.6.x:
I never saw that version. Right now you'd be advised to run 2.1.39 if you must stick with 2.x
Is it possible to create a list (via CLI or the WUI) which has multiple
owner addresses?
Yes.
Option 1 - make multiple addresses get the "Your list has been created email":
It's easy enough to fake it during list creation. Just create an alias with the "multiple address" in your MTA and when prompted for the List admin address, enter the alias from above :-) No code change is needed.
Mailman3 makes it easier. You create a list and you can add multiple owners (Owners, moderators) later. They all use their own member profiles/credentials to manage the lists. For MM2, all list owners share the same password since no username is required, IIRC.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/267565c6ab7816fe29beedf9a9cbcd44.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Did too much openvpn stuff recently, so I mistook openvpn-2.6.x with Mailman 2.1.39 (which I'm actually using).
Argh. That is an ugly hack. I helped myself by simply filling in my address, changing the admins and then bouncing the mail I received to the "new" admins.
-- Ralf Hildebrandt Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netz | Netzwerk-Administration Invalidenstraße 120/121 | D-10115 Berlin
Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 ralf.hildebrandt@charite.de https://www.charite.de
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On 3/14/24 06:15, Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users wrote:
Using mailman-2.6.x:
???
Is it possible to create a list (via CLI or the WUI) which has multiple owner addresses?
The normal CLI and web UI for both MM 2.1 and MM 3 only allow creating a list with a single owner, but you can then add as many owners as you like.
For MM 2.1 you can do this in the web admin UI or via Mailman's bin/config_list or bin/withlist.
For Mailman 3 you can do it in Postorius or via the REST API (see <https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/m...>).
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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On 3/14/2024 8:56 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
For MM2, Mark gave me a patch to allow multiple owners; only the first one in the string was checked. But that was not a problem for me. Anyone who wants can contact me off-list, and I will try to see if I have that patch in my archives. I no longer have access to that Mailman system.
--Barry Finkel
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On 4/14/24 19:12, Barry S. Finkel wrote:
My post with the patch attached is at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/message/F225L...
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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- Barry S. Finkel <bsfinkel@att.net>:
For MM2, Mark gave me a patch to allow multiple owners;
I'd be interested :)
-- Ralf Hildebrandt Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netz | Netzwerk-Administration Invalidenstraße 120/121 | D-10115 Berlin
Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 ralf.hildebrandt@charite.de https://www.charite.de
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Barry S. Finkel
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Mark Sapiro
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Odhiambo Washington
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Ralf Hildebrandt