Original sender address stripped from forwarded emails.
Hello list, I have a rather simple issue with my mailman list server, when someone forwards an email from the list to someone else, the original senders email address is removed.
Instead it says the usual:
From: listname-bounces@listserver.com [mailto:listname-bounces@listserver.com] On Behalf Of John Doe Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 9:19 AM To: listname@listserver.com Subject: [Listname] Subject.
I read up on the general options for an individual list and saw two functions that might be the answer but they don't seem to have any effect on what I am trying to accomplish. Searching the faq briefly didn't yield much either.
How do I change this behavior to include the email address of the original sender, instead of just their name?
Thank you in advance for the help! -Jeff
Jeff Thurston wrote:
Hello list, I have a rather simple issue with my mailman list server, when someone forwards an email from the list to someone else, the original senders email address is removed.
Instead it says the usual:
From: listname-bounces@listserver.com [mailto:listname-bounces@listserver.com] On Behalf Of John Doe Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 9:19 AM To: listname@listserver.com Subject: [Listname] Subject.
I read up on the general options for an individual list and saw two functions that might be the answer but they don't seem to have any effect on what I am trying to accomplish. Searching the faq briefly didn't yield much either.
How do I change this behavior to include the email address of the original sender, instead of just their name?
This is really a Microsoft Outlook issue, not a Mailman issue. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp for more.
Note that the original From: Jon Doe jdoe@example.com header is not altered by Mailman. Mailman adds a Sender: header with the list bounces address, and MS Outlook chooses to show you that information rather than the address from the From: header.
-- Mark Sapiro msapiro@value.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mark Sapiro wrote:
Jeff Thurston wrote:
Hello list, I have a rather simple issue with my mailman list server, when someone forwards an email from the list to someone else, the original senders email address is removed.
Instead it says the usual:
From: listname-bounces@listserver.com [mailto:listname-bounces@listserver.com] On Behalf Of John Doe Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 9:19 AM To: listname@listserver.com Subject: [Listname] Subject.
I read up on the general options for an individual list and saw two functions that might be the answer but they don't seem to have any effect on what I am trying to accomplish. Searching the faq briefly didn't yield much either.
How do I change this behavior to include the email address of the original sender, instead of just their name?
This is really a Microsoft Outlook issue, not a Mailman issue. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp for more.
Note that the original From: Jon Doe jdoe@example.com header is not altered by Mailman. Mailman adds a Sender: header with the list bounces address, and MS Outlook chooses to show you that information rather than the address from the From: header.
Not sure it's just Outlook, as Thunderbird does the same. But, interesting non-the-less.
Another question along the same lines. Is it possible to "hide" or remove the sender? For instance, I want my newsletter to my members to only show "listname@listserver.com", as "listname-bounces@listserver.com" confuses them.
Thoughts?
Krystal F. Zipfel wrote:
Not sure it's just Outlook, as Thunderbird does the same. But, interesting non-the-less.
I don't know what Thunderbird you're using , but both Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 and 3.0a1 (two that I happen to have immediate access to) show the From: and Sender: separately and intact as received.
Another question along the same lines. Is it possible to "hide" or remove the sender? For instance, I want my newsletter to my members to only show "listname@listserver.com", as "listname-bounces@listserver.com" confuses them.
The envelope must be from the listname-bounces address if automated bounce processing is going to work. In addition the Sender: header is set to the same address because some non-compliant MTAs return bounces to the Sender:. The FAQ http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp has some discussion of this and also indicates where in the Mailman code you might change it.
-- Mark Sapiro msapiro@value.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
I get similar results when using mutt... I'm not sure this is completely related to Outlook either. I guess I just have to keep looking.
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 2:18 PM To: Jeff Thurston; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Original sender address stripped from forwardedemails.
Jeff Thurston wrote:
Hello list, I have a rather simple issue with my mailman list server, when someone forwards an email from the list to someone else, the original senders email address is removed.
Instead it says the usual:
From: listname-bounces@listserver.com [mailto:listname-bounces@listserver.com] On Behalf Of John Doe Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 9:19 AM To: listname@listserver.com Subject: [Listname] Subject.
I read up on the general options for an individual list and saw two functions that might be the answer but they don't seem to have any effect on what I am trying to accomplish. Searching the faq briefly didn't yield much either.
How do I change this behavior to include the email address of the original sender, instead of just their name?
This is really a Microsoft Outlook issue, not a Mailman issue. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp for more.
Note that the original From: Jon Doe jdoe@example.com header is not altered by Mailman. Mailman adds a Sender: header with the list bounces address, and MS Outlook chooses to show you that information rather than the address from the From: header.
-- Mark Sapiro msapiro@value.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
I get similar results when using mutt... I'm not sure this is completely related to Outlook either. I guess I just have to keep looking.
I'm not sure what you're seeing with mutt, but what I see is if From: contains a 'real name' I am shown the real name and not the email address in the 'index', but when I view the message, I see the actual From: header and nowhere do I ever see 'from the sender on behalf of ...'.
The bottom line is Mailman doesn't alter the From: header (except in the case of an anonymous list).
Mailman does alter the Sender: which seems to be in accord with the RFCs as Mailman is the agent that sends the message to the list members.
-- Mark Sapiro msapiro@value.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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