Hi,
Just wondering what the difference is between the moderator and owner addresses in Mailman? Is there a way of getting the owner to receive bounce messages, subscription/unsubscription mail etc., and the moderator just receiving the held messages notification?
Thanks. Andrew.
At Sun, 25 Sep 2016 14:56:57 +0000 Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Both the "owner" and "moderator" receive bounce messages, subscription/unsubscription mail etc. The moderator can deal with subscription/unsubscription and moderation messages (moderation chores) as can the owner. The owner can do additional things (deal with all of the list config stuff). Mailman basicly has two priviledge levels (three if you count the overall list admin), with each higher level incorporating all of the lower level's privs.
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On 09/26/2016 11:45 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
There is a FAQ on this at <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030553>, but to be precise, owner and moderator roles have nothing to do with email addresses that may or may not be in the owner or moderator settings of a list. These roles are determined by who knows what password. As Robert indicates, the moderator password for a list can be used to authenticate for the lists admindb interface only. The owner password for a list can be used to authenticate for the lists admindb interface and the lists admin interface, and the site password can be used to authenticate for the admindb interface and the admin interface for any list in the installation.
To return to Andrew's question, the answer is no. Both the 'owner' addresses and the 'moderator' addresses receive all mail to the list's -owner address and this includes most notifications. There are a (very) few notices that are sent only to the 'owner' addresses and none sent only to the 'moderator' addresses.
Yes, it would be good if the 'moderator' addresses only received notices about admindb things (held posts, subscriptions and unsubscriptions), but I think it's too late to change. Also, it's tricky because in general id is very difficult to programmatically determine if a message from outside to -owner should or should not go to a moderator address if there even is one.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
At Sun, 25 Sep 2016 14:56:57 +0000 Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Both the "owner" and "moderator" receive bounce messages, subscription/unsubscription mail etc. The moderator can deal with subscription/unsubscription and moderation messages (moderation chores) as can the owner. The owner can do additional things (deal with all of the list config stuff). Mailman basicly has two priviledge levels (three if you count the overall list admin), with each higher level incorporating all of the lower level's privs.
-- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services
On 09/26/2016 11:45 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
There is a FAQ on this at <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030553>, but to be precise, owner and moderator roles have nothing to do with email addresses that may or may not be in the owner or moderator settings of a list. These roles are determined by who knows what password. As Robert indicates, the moderator password for a list can be used to authenticate for the lists admindb interface only. The owner password for a list can be used to authenticate for the lists admindb interface and the lists admin interface, and the site password can be used to authenticate for the admindb interface and the admin interface for any list in the installation.
To return to Andrew's question, the answer is no. Both the 'owner' addresses and the 'moderator' addresses receive all mail to the list's -owner address and this includes most notifications. There are a (very) few notices that are sent only to the 'owner' addresses and none sent only to the 'moderator' addresses.
Yes, it would be good if the 'moderator' addresses only received notices about admindb things (held posts, subscriptions and unsubscriptions), but I think it's too late to change. Also, it's tricky because in general id is very difficult to programmatically determine if a message from outside to -owner should or should not go to a moderator address if there even is one.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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