
Hi Gang,
2 things Mailman really needs, 1 is database integration, and there's an RFE out there for that. The other is a simple scripting language to be used within the mail body itself. Things like conditionals, the ability to import data from URL's, and equally database tables.
The import facility is critical to delivering targeted content within the message distribution. Being able to import the results of a -HTTP GET- to a URL goes a long way towards that, especially if it will allow you to pass parameters on the URL. Also, make the return an "object" so you can perform operations on the object like sub-strings so you could use other functionality like "skip" this user or add some other content block based on something in the return.
These 2 things would be so awesome.
Thanks for listening ! --Ed
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"Ed" <ed@easent.net> wrote in message news:5.1.0.14.2.20030107132628.034a6ab0@mail.easent.net... pass
But that is not, IMHO, what Mailman is designed to do.
What you are talking about is a bulk mailer ... not a mailing list system.
Again, my opinion ... but Mailman is designed to facilitate email based discussion forums ... not blasting email to a huge number of people at once.
david

--On Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:25:48 -0600 David Gibbs <david@midrange.com> wrote:
-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 10:54 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote:
THANK YOU.
They're correct. Don't use a hammer to fasten screws.
We run one of the larger mailman installs out there (behind sourceforge, but I'm not sure there are many others larger). I also run a hunk o' my company's e-marketing operations. When we needed systems for that, which require a much different user interface than discussion lists do, I wrote custom systems. Mailman really isn't something yous hould try to wedge into that round hole, and I don't think it makes sense to try to use it as the backend...
-- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech chuqui@plaidworks.com -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/
Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject.
-- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech chuqui@plaidworks.com -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/
But when that last guitar's been packed away You know that I still want to play So just make sure you got it all set to go Before you come for my piano

"Ed" <ed@easent.net> wrote in message news:5.1.0.14.2.20030107132628.034a6ab0@mail.easent.net... pass
But that is not, IMHO, what Mailman is designed to do.
What you are talking about is a bulk mailer ... not a mailing list system.
Again, my opinion ... but Mailman is designed to facilitate email based discussion forums ... not blasting email to a huge number of people at once.
david

--On Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:25:48 -0600 David Gibbs <david@midrange.com> wrote:
-- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 10:54 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote:
THANK YOU.
They're correct. Don't use a hammer to fasten screws.
We run one of the larger mailman installs out there (behind sourceforge, but I'm not sure there are many others larger). I also run a hunk o' my company's e-marketing operations. When we needed systems for that, which require a much different user interface than discussion lists do, I wrote custom systems. Mailman really isn't something yous hould try to wedge into that round hole, and I don't think it makes sense to try to use it as the backend...
-- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech chuqui@plaidworks.com -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/
Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject.
-- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech chuqui@plaidworks.com -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/
But when that last guitar's been packed away You know that I still want to play So just make sure you got it all set to go Before you come for my piano
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Chuq Von Rospach
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David Gibbs
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Ed
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Larry Rosenman
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Roy S. Rapoport