Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message.
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- Schwartz, Robert - IS <Robert.Schwartz@itt.com>:
Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message.
Set the reply-to: to something wrong :)
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On 04/30/10 09:23, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
Set the reply-to: to something wrong :)
That will not work.
Reply-to-All will reply to the incorrect Reply-To as well as all other senders.
There is also a possibility that a spam filter will detect that the Reply-To is invalid and will consider the message spam.
Reply-to-All is an end user application function that Mailman its self has no control over.
A better question would be where does the OP want replies to go? Make Reply-To reflect that location.
Grant. . . .
On 4/30/2010 7:23 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
- Schwartz, Robert - IS<Robert.Schwartz@itt.com>:
Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message.
Set the reply-to: to something wrong :)
Kinda defeats the purpose of replying at all.
Robert- Why?? Most mailing lists are a conversation (of sorts). You say one thing and I say something relevant to that (like this). Almost all messaging happens like that (email, web fora, chat systems, SMS, etc). Do you want to prevent two-way conversation, force every message to me a "new" message, or what?
Also, reply-all is a MUA function, not an MTA function, so changing the behavior of Mailman is kind of a band-aid solution.
(That aside, you could look at the subject for a "Re:" or similar tag, but that's not reliable. You could look for mailman's X-BeenThere or X-Mailman-Version headers, which would be better... OTOH, these will prevent -all- replies that go to the list, not just reply-all.)
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On 04/29/10 13:26, Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote:
Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all?
To directly answer your question (and for the benefit of others searching the archives) I think the best that you will be able to do is to filter messages based on the existence of the standard reply headers ("References:" and "In-Reply-To:") and reject the message(s).
Grant. . . .
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On 4/30/2010 7:23 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
- Schwartz, Robert - IS<Robert.Schwartz@itt.com>:
Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message.
Set the reply-to: to something wrong :)
Kinda defeats the purpose of replying at all.
It was not my idea!
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Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote:
Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message.
As others have said, I'm not sure this is a good idea, unless your goal is to annoy your users and impede communication. But one thing that would have the side-effect of blocking a reply-to-all is changing the list settings so that the list only accepts mails if there is exactly one recipient.
You can do this under Privacy Options -> Recipient Filters Set "Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting." to 1
Then anyone hitting reply-to-all will get a message saying that their message is held because there are too many recipients, since any reply-to-all will include both the sender address and the list address.
Terri
That didn't work because the first message sent will go to yourself and the mailing list which will be blocked. If you tell it not to send it to yourself, the first message will send. If you try to reply to all to this message it will also be sent because the reply to will only have the member list.
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Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote:
Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message.
As others have said, I'm not sure this is a good idea, unless your goal is to annoy your users and impede communication. But one thing that would have the side-effect of blocking a reply-to-all is changing the list settings so that the list only accepts mails if there is exactly one recipient.
You can do this under Privacy Options -> Recipient Filters Set "Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting." to 1
Then anyone hitting reply-to-all will get a message saying that their message is held because there are too many recipients, since any reply-to-all will include both the sender address and the list address.
Terri
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Maybe I can put a message at the top of every mail being send "Do not do a reply all". How do you do this?
Robert P. Schwartz
Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote:
Does anyone know a way to block a reply to all? I would like my users to not be able to reply to all to post a message. If the want to post a message, they should post it not just reply to a previous message.
As others have said, I'm not sure this is a good idea, unless your goal is to annoy your users and impede communication. But one thing that would have the side-effect of blocking a reply-to-all is changing the list settings so that the list only accepts mails if there is exactly one recipient.
You can do this under Privacy Options -> Recipient Filters Set "Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting." to 1
Then anyone hitting reply-to-all will get a message saying that their message is held because there are too many recipients, since any reply-to-all will include both the sender address and the list address.
Terri
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Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote:
Maybe I can put a message at the top of every mail being send "Do not do a reply all". How do you do this?
The list admin interface Non-digest options -> msg_header
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I tried this an I'm not getting any header. I tried it for non-digest options and digest options.
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Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote:
Maybe I can put a message at the top of every mail being send "Do not do a reply all". How do you do this?
The list admin interface Non-digest options -> msg_header
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Robert P. Schwartz wrote:
I tried this an I'm not getting any header. I tried it for non-digest options and digest options.
If you put text in msg_header and saved that change and then sent a post to that list and the post as received from the list didn't contain the header text, it may be because the post to the list was multipart or HTML and the header was added as a separate MIME part which your mail client doesn't display.
See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9> for more on this.
If the header is not added in any form at all, I cannot explain why. Do messages from your lists contain the default (or other) msg_footer?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
That seems to be the issue. When I looked at the email from my work email I saw the header text that was added, but my message was added as an attachment. I like the header text to be added and the message not to appear as an attachment. If there is no way to do this, I'll just live with it.
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Robert P. Schwartz wrote:
I tried this an I'm not getting any header. I tried it for non-digest options and digest options.
If you put text in msg_header and saved that change and then sent a post to that list and the post as received from the list didn't contain the header text, it may be because the post to the list was multipart or HTML and the header was added as a separate MIME part which your mail client doesn't display.
See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9> for more on this.
If the header is not added in any form at all, I cannot explain why. Do messages from your lists contain the default (or other) msg_footer?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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On 5/1/2010 2:27 PM, Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote:
That seems to be the issue. When I looked at the email from my work email I saw the header text that was added, but my message was added as an attachment. I like the header text to be added and the message not to appear as an attachment. If there is no way to do this, I'll just live with it.
As it says in the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9> (option 2), if the incoming post is plain text only or if the list's content filtering is set to remove all non-plain text parts, the msg_header text will be prepended to the plain text message body. Otherwise the msg_header text will be added as a separate MIME part (attachment).
I may seem obtuse about this, but it would help me to help you if you explained in terms of simple scenarios what it is you want.
For example, user x sends a post to list y. user z receives the post from the list.
a) I want user z to only be able to reply to user x and otherwise to be required to send a new, original, non-reply message to the list, or b) I want user z to be able to reply to user x only or to the list only, but not to both, or c) I want user z to be able to reply only to the list and not directly to user x at all.
Those are only examples, but I would like to know what you would like to have happen.
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