Non-member regexps
Good Day
We are using mailman 3, and would like to whitelist a domain for acceptance of messages as non-members. It seems possible from my online searches, I have also tried with an online python regex tester(https://www.regextester.com/94044), but I have not managed to be successful.
Below are 2 examples I have tried
^.+@noldor\.co\.za$ ^[a-zA-Z0-9_.+-]+@(?:(?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]+\.)?[a-zA-Z]+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$ ^.+@gmail.com$ ^.*gmail\.com$
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*Daniel Krause* *Head of IT*
*Office: **+27 87 238 4238* <0872384238> *Mobile : **+971 55 418 4733* <0971554184733> *Email: **daniel@noldor.co.za* <daniel@noldor.co.za> *Web: **www.noldor.co.za* <http://www.noldor.co.za/>
On 9/29/20 5:38 AM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
Good Day
We are using mailman 3, and would like to whitelist a domain for acceptance of messages as non-members. It seems possible from my online searches, I have also tried with an online python regex tester(https://www.regextester.com/94044), but I have not managed to be successful.
Below are 2 examples I have tried
^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
This looks good.
^[a-zA-Z0-9_.+-]+@(?:(?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]+\.)?[a-zA-Z]+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
This is unduly complex. These regexps are matched case insensitively so it isn't necessary to include both a-z and A-Z. Also, I don't thing you need to be concerned about invalid addresses, so
^.+@(?:.+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
would do, or even simpler
^.*[@.]noldor\.co\.za$
^.+@gmail.com$
This would allow user@gmailxcom, but probably not an issue.
^.*gmail\.com$
This is good.
How are you unsuccessful? If you have say
^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
in accept_these_nonmembers, what happens when an address from that domain posts to the list?
Note that while determination of whether a message is from a list member checks addresses in several things (default From:, envelope sender, Reply-To:, Sender), *_these_nonmembers checks only the first address found in From:, Sender:, envelope sender in that order by default, but if USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER is set True in mm_cfg.py, the order is Sender:, From:, envelope sender.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
It would seem the issue was that the sending address was already listed as a non-member with a default action Tested after clearing out the non-member and its working now
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 7:29 PM Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 9/29/20 5:38 AM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
Good Day
We are using mailman 3, and would like to whitelist a domain for acceptance of messages as non-members. It seems possible from my online searches, I have also tried with an online python regex tester(https://www.regextester.com/94044), but I have not managed to be successful.
Below are 2 examples I have tried
^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
This looks good.
^[a-zA-Z0-9_.+-]+@(?:(?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]+\.)?[a-zA-Z]+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
This is unduly complex. These regexps are matched case insensitively so it isn't necessary to include both a-z and A-Z. Also, I don't thing you need to be concerned about invalid addresses, so
^.+@(?:.+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
would do, or even simpler
^.*[@.]noldor\.co\.za$
^.+@gmail.com$
This would allow user@gmailxcom, but probably not an issue.
^.*gmail\.com$
This is good.
How are you unsuccessful? If you have say
^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
in accept_these_nonmembers, what happens when an address from that domain posts to the list?
Note that while determination of whether a message is from a list member checks addresses in several things (default From:, envelope sender, Reply-To:, Sender), *_these_nonmembers checks only the first address found in From:, Sender:, envelope sender in that order by default, but if USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER is set True in mm_cfg.py, the order is Sender:, From:, envelope sender.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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*Daniel Krause* *Head of IT*
*Office: **+27 87 238 4238* <0872384238> *Mobile : **+971 55 418 4733* <0971554184733> *Email: **daniel@noldor.co.za* <daniel@noldor.co.za> *Web: **www.noldor.co.za* <http://www.noldor.co.za/>
If I only have one address listed then the regexps work
Instructions are to have one address per line, yet this then fails I have tried terminating lines with commas and semicolons, neither have worked
This is what I have currently, each of these work if they are the only entry ^.+@gmail\.com$ ^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:02 AM Daniel Krause <daniel@noldor.co.za> wrote:
It would seem the issue was that the sending address was already listed as a non-member with a default action Tested after clearing out the non-member and its working now
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 7:29 PM Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 9/29/20 5:38 AM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
Good Day
We are using mailman 3, and would like to whitelist a domain for acceptance of messages as non-members. It seems possible from my online searches, I have also tried with an online python regex tester(https://www.regextester.com/94044), but I have not managed to be successful.
Below are 2 examples I have tried
^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
This looks good.
^[a-zA-Z0-9_.+-]+@(?:(?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]+\.)?[a-zA-Z]+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
This is unduly complex. These regexps are matched case insensitively so it isn't necessary to include both a-z and A-Z. Also, I don't thing you need to be concerned about invalid addresses, so
^.+@(?:.+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
would do, or even simpler
^.*[@.]noldor\.co\.za$
^.+@gmail.com$
This would allow user@gmailxcom, but probably not an issue.
^.*gmail\.com$
This is good.
How are you unsuccessful? If you have say
^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
in accept_these_nonmembers, what happens when an address from that domain posts to the list?
Note that while determination of whether a message is from a list member checks addresses in several things (default From:, envelope sender, Reply-To:, Sender), *_these_nonmembers checks only the first address found in From:, Sender:, envelope sender in that order by default, but if USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER is set True in mm_cfg.py, the order is Sender:, From:, envelope sender.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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*Daniel Krause* *Head of IT*
*Office: **+27 87 238 4238* <0872384238> *Mobile : **+971 55 418 4733* <0971554184733> *Email: **daniel@noldor.co.za* <daniel@noldor.co.za> *Web: **www.noldor.co.za* <http://www.noldor.co.za/>
--
*Daniel Krause* *Head of IT*
*Office: **+27 87 238 4238* <0872384238> *Mobile : **+971 55 418 4733* <0971554184733> *Email: **daniel@noldor.co.za* <daniel@noldor.co.za> *Web: **www.noldor.co.za* <http://www.noldor.co.za/>
On 9/29/20 10:22 PM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
If I only have one address listed then the regexps work
Instructions are to have one address per line, yet this then fails I have tried terminating lines with commas and semicolons, neither have worked
This is what I have currently, each of these work if they are the only entry ^.+@gmail\.com$ ^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
Is this Mailman 2.1 or Mailman 3? If Mailman 3, please join the mailman-users@mailman3.org list at <https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users@mailman3.org/> and post there.
I will follow up once I know which Mailman this is.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 9/30/20 10:17 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Is this Mailman 2.1 or Mailman 3? If Mailman 3, please join the mailman-users@mailman3.org list at <https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users@mailman3.org/> and post there.
I will follow up once I know which Mailman this is.
No need to Mark. It is a bug with our interface. A fix will be posted today.
-- Brian Carpenter Harmonylists.com Emwd.com
On 9/29/20 10:02 PM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
It would seem the issue was that the sending address was already listed as a non-member with a default action Tested after clearing out the non-member and its working now
This list is for Mailman 2.1. It appears you are using Mailman 3. The appropriate list for Mailman 3 is mailman-users@mailman3.org <https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users@mailman3.org/>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Does the @[NAME] expression, that accepts posts to mailing list X by subscribers of mailing list Y still work in mailman3? Strictly speaking, it is not a regexp, but I rely on it heavily.
I am testing out mailman3 and I have to say, migration works much better than I expected! Kudos!!
However, regexps from "accept_these_nonmembers" have not been migrated, so I wonder if they are still recognized.
Cheers,
Johannes
Am 29.09.20 um 17:26 schrieb Mark Sapiro:
On 9/29/20 5:38 AM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
Good Day
We are using mailman 3, and would like to whitelist a domain for acceptance of messages as non-members. It seems possible from my online searches, I have also tried with an online python regex tester(https://www.regextester.com/94044), but I have not managed to be successful.
Below are 2 examples I have tried
^.+@noldor\.co\.za$ This looks good.
^[a-zA-Z0-9_.+-]+@(?:(?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]+\.)?[a-zA-Z]+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$ This is unduly complex. These regexps are matched case insensitively so it isn't necessary to include both a-z and A-Z. Also, I don't thing you need to be concerned about invalid addresses, so
^.+@(?:.+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
would do, or even simpler
^.*[@.]noldor\.co\.za$
^.+@gmail.com$ This would allow user@gmailxcom, but probably not an issue.
^.*gmail\.com$ This is good.
How are you unsuccessful? If you have say
^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
in accept_these_nonmembers, what happens when an address from that domain posts to the list?
Note that while determination of whether a message is from a list member checks addresses in several things (default From:, envelope sender, Reply-To:, Sender), *_these_nonmembers checks only the first address found in From:, Sender:, envelope sender in that order by default, but if USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER is set True in mm_cfg.py, the order is Sender:, From:, envelope sender.
Please do not use this list for Mailman 3 questions. The list for Mailman 3 is mailman-users@mailman3.org https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users@mailman3.org/
On 2/11/21 1:59 PM, Johannes Rohr wrote:
Does the @[NAME] expression, that accepts posts to mailing list X by subscribers of mailing list Y still work in mailman3? Strictly speaking, it is not a regexp, but I rely on it heavily.
No. That is not in Mailman 3 at this time.
I am testing out mailman3 and I have to say, migration works much better than I expected! Kudos!!
However, regexps from "accept_these_nonmembers" have not been migrated, so I wonder if they are still recognized.
They are and they should have been migrated. If you have recent versions of Mailman core (specifically import21) and postorius, you should see them in Settings -> Message Acceptance.
Specifically, import21 should migrate non-regexp addresses in *_these_nonmembers as non-members with the appropriate moderation action and regexps into the corresponding MM 3 lists *_these_nonmembers.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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