Hmmm...well, it doesn't seem to be recreating those lock files now - but still no mail is coming thru.

I'm at a loss as to what to try next. The server has been hanging on processes all day (non mailman ones too).

I'm still learning all the server stuff (I really never wanted to manage a server but had no choice!). How do I check the cron entries to see if they are working? Where else would you recommend looking for problems?
Everything was working fine until this morning. I had to kill a qrunner process that wouldn't "let go" and overloaded the server. I then upgraded CPanel - which automatically upgraded mailman from 2.0.11 to 2.0.13. Then

• nothing worked.

On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

WhitmoreWebWorks wrote:

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Well, I had done that - but more kept coming. For the same lists that had developed lock files. Should I be checking those individual lists for errors? Sorry - I just am not sure where I should be looking to fix this mess.

Mailman creates lock files whenever it's accessing the config.db file.  This

happens both through qrunner, as well as any access to the web interface. The difference is that the web interface creates short lock files - short in the sense that they will get deleted as soon as that task is done (whether you're logging in, or viewing one of the membership pages.)

Qrunner on the other hand creates a lock file for as long as it needs it -

and it's that length of time that may be a problem. If it's taking more than (the default) 5 minutes for qrunner to finish its task, that lock file can become stale when cron fires off a second qrunner task.

One thing you could do is this:  temporarily remove the qrunner task from

cron. Then manually try to run it and see how long it takes. If it takes a while to run, you may have to adjust your cron time.

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