Untitled DocumentThe probe message that my list is sending out to members who have had messages bounce list all the other users addresses who have had bounces. How can I fix this.
Thanks' -Gary
Gary Kaplan
GK Graphic Designs
Web Design, Graphic Design, Photography
http://www.gkgraphicdesigns.com
At 10:55 PM -0400 2004-09-20, Gary Kaplan wrote:
Untitled DocumentThe probe message that my list is sending out to members who have had messages bounce list all the other users addresses who have had bounces. How can I fix this.
Could you give us some more details as to precisely what your problem is, so that we have some idea of what you want fixed?
As a starting point, please see <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.022.htp>.
-- Brad Knowles, <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.
One of my users informed me that she got this message in which a couple hundred address from the list were disclosed. I want to know if there is a way to stop this. I don't want everyone who gets a probe message to see everyone's email address. I have noted where the address are listed but left the actual addresses off.
This is a probe message. You can ignore this message.
The Upcnews mailing list has received a number of bounces from you, indicating that there may be a problem delivering messages to sue@jimgrisham.com. A bounce sample is attached below. Please examine this message to make sure there are no problems with your email address. You may want to check with your mail administrator for more help.
If you are reading this, you don't need to do anything to remain an enabled member of the mailing list. If this message had bounced, you would not be reading it, and your membership would have been disabled. Normally when you are disabled, you receive occasional messages asking you to re-enable your subscription.
You can also visit your membership page at
http://upc-online.org/mailman/options/upcnews_upc-online.org/sue%40jimgrish am.com
On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such as your email address and whether you get digests or not. As a reminder, your membership password is
ahnedaIf you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner at
Upcnews-owner@upc-online.orgReceived: from mailnull by washington.hostforweb.net with local (Exim 4.41) id 1C9XAp-000348-CZ for Upcnews-bounces@upc-online.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:02:19 -0400 X-Failed-Recipients:
At this point it lists a couple hundred email addresses
Then is says this:
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon@washington.hostforweb.net> To: Upcnews-bounces@upc-online.org Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Message-Id: <E1C9XAp-000348-CZ@washington.hostforweb.net> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:02:19 -0400
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
and list the addresses again.
Gary Kaplan
GK Graphic Designs
Web Design, Graphic Design, Photography
http://www.gkgraphicdesigns.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Knowles [mailto:brad@stop.mail-abuse.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:55 AM
To: Gary Kaplan
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Probe Message Problem
At 10:55 PM -0400 2004-09-20, Gary Kaplan wrote:
> Untitled DocumentThe probe message that my list is sending out to members
> who have had messages bounce list all the other users addresses who have
had
> bounces. How can I fix this.
Could you give us some more details as to precisely what your
problem is, so that we have some idea of what you want fixed?
As a starting point, please see
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.022.htp>.
--
Brad Knowles, <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755
SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.
Gary Kaplan wrote:
One of my users informed me that she got this message in which a couple hundred address from the list were disclosed. I want to know if there is a way to stop this. I don't want everyone who gets a probe message to see everyone's email address. I have noted where the address are listed but left the actual addresses off.
This is a probe message. You can ignore this message.
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Received: from mailnull by washington.hostforweb.net with local (Exim 4.41) id 1C9XAp-000348-CZ for Upcnews-bounces@upc-online.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:02:19 -0400 X-Failed-Recipients:
At this point it lists a couple hundred email addresses
Then is says this:
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon@washington.hostforweb.net> To: Upcnews-bounces@upc-online.org Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Message-Id: <E1C9XAp-000348-CZ@washington.hostforweb.net> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:02:19 -0400
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
and list the addresses again.
It appears that Mailman is appending the bounce message to the probe and in this case there were "a couple hundred" subscribers in the washington.hostforweb.net domain that bounced.
In any case, this seems to be sufficient reason to not append the original bounce mesage to the probe.
I'm far from fluent in Python, but it looks like either
self.sendProbe(member, msg) in the routine def registerBounce(self, member, msg, weight=1.0, day=None): in Bouncer.py
or outer.attach(MIMEMessage(msg)) in def sendProbe(self, member, msg): in Deliverer.py
are places where this can be addressed.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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