Hi all,
I've a user send a message with pdf attachments and they ended up as html links to the web archive. Which is fine except thought wrong, but what am I missing?
- content filtering is off,
- scrub attachments is set to no. I though that was supposed to allow attachments through. I guess I
TIA
Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu
On 12/12/18 1:51 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
Those settings allow non-plain text attachments to remain as attachments in individual messages and MIME format digests sent to list members, but they will always be 'scrubbed' from plain text digests and the pipermail archive because those things only support plain text, possibly with hyperlinks to removed non-plain text parts.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 12/12/18 4:42 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
It's a non-digest list (and yes, I get the archives), but here's the thought: if a member's set to "plain", would that also trigger the scrub?
-- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu
On 12/12/18 3:30 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
It's a non-digest list (and yes, I get the archives), but here's the thought: if a member's set to "plain", would that also trigger the scrub?
The 'plain' member setting only affects the format of the digest the member receives if the member is a digest member.
The scrubbing will always occur for all posts in the pipermail archive regardless of list settings as long as they allow non-plain text attachments.
If you're asking if a non-digest member is set to 'plain' would attachments be scrubbed from posts sent to that member, the answer is no. the 'plain' setting affects only the digest format for digest members. It has no effect for non-digest members.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 12/12/18 5:53 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
OK, thank you. I guess I need to double-check what the guy actually saw/got: all I nave to go on is the archive (where attachments are scrubbed as intended) and the config that says the list is nondigestable = 1, digestable = 0. Perhaps his gmail ate the pdfs, or he is not receiving his own messages or something...
Thanks again
Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu
So this was a user problem, mailman works exactly as advertised:
- user has his e-mail forwarded to gmail,
- gmail put it in "all mail",
- not seeing it in "inbox", the user went and checked the archives,
- where the attachments were scrubbed.
Now that we found the actual e-mails, the attachments are there indeed.
(I expect having "not me too" set would do this, too, but it wasn't the case here.)
Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu
Hello Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users. On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:45:31 -0600, you wrote:
So I guess, Gmail decided to put the list message in the spam / junk folder first?
Christian
Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)
Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org
On 12/14/18 12:44 AM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote:
Actually, it appears that this was the user's own post in which case Gmail discarded the received list post. The message in "all mail" was the original post as in the user's "sent" folder. See <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030680>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 12/14/18 11:18 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Oh, so it's a feature. Colour me surprised.
-- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu
On 12/12/18 1:51 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
Those settings allow non-plain text attachments to remain as attachments in individual messages and MIME format digests sent to list members, but they will always be 'scrubbed' from plain text digests and the pipermail archive because those things only support plain text, possibly with hyperlinks to removed non-plain text parts.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 12/12/18 4:42 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
It's a non-digest list (and yes, I get the archives), but here's the thought: if a member's set to "plain", would that also trigger the scrub?
-- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu
On 12/12/18 3:30 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
It's a non-digest list (and yes, I get the archives), but here's the thought: if a member's set to "plain", would that also trigger the scrub?
The 'plain' member setting only affects the format of the digest the member receives if the member is a digest member.
The scrubbing will always occur for all posts in the pipermail archive regardless of list settings as long as they allow non-plain text attachments.
If you're asking if a non-digest member is set to 'plain' would attachments be scrubbed from posts sent to that member, the answer is no. the 'plain' setting affects only the digest format for digest members. It has no effect for non-digest members.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 12/12/18 5:53 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
OK, thank you. I guess I need to double-check what the guy actually saw/got: all I nave to go on is the archive (where attachments are scrubbed as intended) and the config that says the list is nondigestable = 1, digestable = 0. Perhaps his gmail ate the pdfs, or he is not receiving his own messages or something...
Thanks again
Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu
So this was a user problem, mailman works exactly as advertised:
- user has his e-mail forwarded to gmail,
- gmail put it in "all mail",
- not seeing it in "inbox", the user went and checked the archives,
- where the attachments were scrubbed.
Now that we found the actual e-mails, the attachments are there indeed.
(I expect having "not me too" set would do this, too, but it wasn't the case here.)
Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu
Hello Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users. On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:45:31 -0600, you wrote:
So I guess, Gmail decided to put the list message in the spam / junk folder first?
Christian
Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)
Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org
On 12/14/18 12:44 AM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote:
Actually, it appears that this was the user's own post in which case Gmail discarded the received list post. The message in "all mail" was the original post as in the user's "sent" folder. See <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030680>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 12/14/18 11:18 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Oh, so it's a feature. Colour me surprised.
-- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu
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