Mailman as a newletter manager
Hi.
I am looking for software to manage a newsletter, and I think that with some configuration I can do this with Mailman. The end-product I want is a newsletter with content contributed my subscribers and non-subscribers, with a list of the "posts" followed by the actual content. At the basic level, I was able to achieve this with a moderated digest-mode list. However, I would also like to make the following changes, and am not sure how:
- Remove the header information for the digest, as it deters from the newsletter. This would be the From, Date and Message ID (I would like to be able to keep the Subject). I know there is the "Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields)" option, but that is not enough.
- Allow moderators to make changes to the submissions, in case spelling or punctuation errors are found.
- Suppress the autoresponder for non-subscriber posts but allow the autoresponder for all posts. For all posts, I want an autoresponse sent with more information. I was able to get this to work, but an autoresponse is also sent for the "Post by non-member to a members-only list" reason. If I set "Send mail to poster when their posting is held for approval?" to "No", then no responses are sent; if I set this to "Yes" and also set "Should Mailman send an auto-response to mailing list posters?" to yes, non-subscribers get two messages. Is there a way to suppress the "Post by non-member to a members-only list" autoresponder?
Thanks.
Julianna
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Julianna wrote:
I am looking for software to manage a newsletter, and I think that with some configuration I can do this with Mailman. The end-product I want is a newsletter with content contributed my subscribers and non-subscribers, with a list of the "posts" followed by the actual content. At the basic level, I was able to achieve this with a moderated digest-mode list. However, I would also like to make the following changes, and am not sure how:
- Remove the header information for the digest, as it deters from the newsletter. This would be the From, Date and Message ID (I would like to be able to keep the Subject). I know there is the "Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields)" option, but that is not enough.
I'm not sure if you can remove all the digest details you want without changing the mailman code a little. That's not too hard really, but might not be an option if you're using mailman on a shared web host.
- Allow moderators to make changes to the submissions, in case spelling or punctuation errors are found.
Mailman doesn't have a facility to edit the messages, AFAIK.
- Suppress the autoresponder for non-subscriber posts but allow the autoresponder for all posts. For all posts, I want an autoresponse sent with more information. I was able to get this to work, but an autoresponse is also sent for the "Post by non-member to a members-only list" reason. If I set "Send mail to poster when their posting is held for approval?" to "No", then no responses are sent; if I set this to "Yes" and also set "Should Mailman send an auto-response to mailing list posters?" to yes, non-subscribers get two messages. Is there a way to suppress the "Post by non-member to a members-only list" autoresponder?
In thinking about the scenario you're trying to achieve (and bear in mind that I haven't had any caffeine or sugar yet today), it might be simplest to direct posters to send submissions to the moderators directly and let them format and/or correct them and then have them post to the full list. You could even use a separate list for those moderators so that they would all see the submissions and know if someone else had already handled a submission.
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Todd Zullinger wrote:
Julianna wrote:
- Remove the header information for the digest, as it deters from the newsletter. This would be the From, Date and Message ID (I would like to be able to keep the Subject). I know there is the "Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields)" option, but that is not enough.
I'm not sure if you can remove all the digest details you want without changing the mailman code a little. That's not too hard really, but might not be an option if you're using mailman on a shared web host.
If it is your Mailman installation, look at the Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py variables MIME_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS and PLAIN_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS for controlling which individual message headers appear in digests.
See <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.048.htp> for information about editing templates. The 'boilerplate' at the beginning of the digest is the masthead.txt template.
- Allow moderators to make changes to the submissions, in case spelling or punctuation errors are found.
Mailman doesn't have a facility to edit the messages, AFAIK.
Todd is essentially correct here, but see <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.009.htp>.
- Suppress the autoresponder for non-subscriber posts but allow the autoresponder for all posts. For all posts, I want an autoresponse sent with more information. I was able to get this to work, but an autoresponse is also sent for the "Post by non-member to a members-only list" reason. If I set "Send mail to poster when their posting is held for approval?" to "No", then no responses are sent; if I set this to "Yes" and also set "Should Mailman send an auto-response to mailing list posters?" to yes, non-subscribers get two messages. Is there a way to suppress the "Post by non-member to a members-only list" autoresponder?
This is not the way it's supposed to work. The autoresponses from "Should Mailman send an auto-response to mailing list posters?" are completely independent of the "Send mail to poster when their posting is held for approval?" setting.
Are you sure you're not getting confused by the autoresponse_graceperiod setting (Number of days between auto-responses to either the mailing list or -request/-owner address from the same poster.)?
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