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Dan Phillips wrote:
Thanks Dan. There are some lists that i belong to that i do not get the email that i sent but i see others response to it. Well, i subscribed to my list with my yahoo account and sent an email from gmail to the list and i did not get that email in my yahoo account. Still seems like something is not working.
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I also see in my email logs on the webserver: (i stopped and then started postfix to mark where i was in the logs) Sep 30 18:34:06 web postfix/master[1475]: daemon started -- version 2.2.9, configuration /etc/postfix Sep 30 18:34:06 web postfix/qmgr[1477]: 9E7945FBBB: from=<wwwrun@web.site>, size=1424, nrcpt=2 (queue active) Sep 30 18:34:36 web postfix/smtp[1479]: connect to domain.tld[169.254.254.123]: Connection timed out (port 25) Sep 30 18:35:06 web postfix/smtp[1479]: connect to domain.tld[169.254.1.129]: Connection timed out (port 25) Sep 30 18:35:06 web postfix/smtp[1479]: connect to domain.tld[192.168.x.x]: Connection refused (port 25) Sep 30 18:35:06 web postfix/smtp[1479]: 9E7945FBBB: to=<email@domain.com>, relay=none, delay=418801, status=deferred (connect to domain.tld[192.168.x.x]: Connection refused)
Notice the first few lines are a bogus ip address then it gets the domain controllers ip. I looked in dns and there aren't any records that have domain.tld that point to the domain controller. Confirm emails are being sent; it looks like postfix on the webserver is not receiving email. I have also joined the postfix list for help. If someone wants to try to subscribe and then send an email to the list, please feel free: http://www.mytimewithgod.net/mailman/listinfo/mtwg-prayer
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Arnold" <carnold@electrichendrix.com> To: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 5:02:14 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Beginner questions
Dan Phillips wrote:
Thanks Dan. There are some lists that i belong to that i do not get the email that i sent but i see others response to it. Well, i subscribed to my list with my yahoo account and sent an email from gmail to the list and i did not get that email in my yahoo account. Still seems like something is not working.
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Using the DNS report tool from www.dnsstuff.com
It says you don't have a MX record for that domain. Quoting:
MX FAIL
MX Category ERROR: I couldn't find any MX records for
mytimewithgod.net. If you want to receive E-mail on this domain, you
should have MX record(s). Without any MX records, mailservers should
attempt to deliver mail to the A record for mytimewithgod.net. I can't
continue in a case like this, so I'm assuming you don't receive mail on
this domain.
Mail FAIL Connect to mail servers ERROR: I could not find any
mailservers for mytimewithgod.net.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
I subscribed to your list and got a confirm email from the list. I
replied to this, but was never told I was subscribed. Looking the
headers for your confirmation email and I quote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Received: from mail.electrichendrix.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost
(mail.electrichendrix.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with
ESMTP id 33sehzUyOLfY for <dennis@eaachat.org>; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:45:51
-0400 (EDT)
Received: from web.site (unknown [192.168.123.3]) by
mail.electrichendrix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9289EBDB for
<dennis@eaachat.org>; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:45:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from web.site (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by web.site (Postfix)
with ESMTP id 81A692CE47 for <dennis@eaachat.org>; Mon, 1 Oct 2007
07:45:51 -0400 (EDT)MIME-Version: 1.0
The IP address 192.168.123.3 isn't right - is it? That's an internal address on your intranet rather than a valid Internet IP.
Also - I sent 2 test emails to the list address on the webpage: mtwg-prayer@lists.mytimewithgod.net
and got the following mail returned error from MAILER-DAEMON@mail.electrichendrix.com
Final-Recipient: rfc822; mtwg-prayer@lists.mytimewithgod.net
Original-Recipient: rfc822;mtwg-prayer@lists.mytimewithgod.net
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; 192.168.123.3
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 <mtwg-prayer@lists.mytimewithgod.net>: Relay
access
denied
Dennis
Chris Arnold wrote:
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Dennis Morgan wrote:
I have 2 domains, electrichendrix.com and mytimewithgod.net. Both are through dyndns.com as i have 1 dhcp address from my provider. Both domains have a mx record in dyndns.com's system. It doesn't really matter, as mail going to mytimewithgod.net is pointed to the same ip as electrichendrix.com and i have no problem getting mytimewithgod.net mail on my mailserver. Passed this isp connection i have a juniper firewall that does nat or more appropriately, pat. Behind this firewall, sits the 192.168.x.x subnet and the 192.168.x.x subnet. These subnets are connected via switches to the firewall. On these subnets, i have a DC, a mailserver and a webserver. It is funny that mytimewithgod.net does not report a mx record; i am looking at the mx right now on dyndns.com. Anyway, mytimewithgod.net is making it to my mailserver and being forwarded to the webserver which has mailman installed.
Correct
Here is the problem, i believe.......mail from the mailserver is being rejected by the webserver as "relay access denied". On the webserver, which has postfix, in main.cf i have entered relayhost = main.mail.server but i still get the same response "relay access denied". I have asked on the postfix mailinglist, how to have postfix accept mail from my webserver. Still waiting for a reply.
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Is my subscription request in your moderation queue?
I don't know hardly anything about mailman - I'm here to learn - but just a notion. If you'd go ahead and enter the real values you have in your configuration files instead of things like:
main.cf i have entered relayhost = main.mail.server
people like Mark and Brad would likely be able to be of more help.
Chris Arnold wrote:
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Dennis Morgan wrote:
Is my subscription request in your moderation queue?
I do not see it in membership management. I have not had a problem subscribing to the list. Can you try again?
I have a problem with this as this list is indexed by major search engines and i do not want things like for the whole world to see.
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Chris Arnold wrote:
DNSStuff is a bit too fussy here.
Your list is in the lists.mytimewithgod.net domain which does have an MX pointing to mytimewithgod.net and mytimewithgod.net has a single A record. Thus, mail to lists.mytimewithgod.net is delivered via mytimewithgod.net which is fine. Also, mail to mytimewithgod.net will work too because mytimewithgod.net has a single A record and even though DNSStuff doesn't like it, this is sufficient for delivery of mail.
I think this affects outgoing mail, not incoming mail. It may or may not be required/desirable depending on whether you need/want Postfix to deliver mail via the mailserver box.
I have asked on the postfix mailinglist, how to have postfix accept mail from my webserver. Still waiting for a reply.
That's the right place to ask.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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I also see in my email logs on the webserver: (i stopped and then started postfix to mark where i was in the logs) Sep 30 18:34:06 web postfix/master[1475]: daemon started -- version 2.2.9, configuration /etc/postfix Sep 30 18:34:06 web postfix/qmgr[1477]: 9E7945FBBB: from=<wwwrun@web.site>, size=1424, nrcpt=2 (queue active) Sep 30 18:34:36 web postfix/smtp[1479]: connect to domain.tld[169.254.254.123]: Connection timed out (port 25) Sep 30 18:35:06 web postfix/smtp[1479]: connect to domain.tld[169.254.1.129]: Connection timed out (port 25) Sep 30 18:35:06 web postfix/smtp[1479]: connect to domain.tld[192.168.x.x]: Connection refused (port 25) Sep 30 18:35:06 web postfix/smtp[1479]: 9E7945FBBB: to=<email@domain.com>, relay=none, delay=418801, status=deferred (connect to domain.tld[192.168.x.x]: Connection refused)
Notice the first few lines are a bogus ip address then it gets the domain controllers ip. I looked in dns and there aren't any records that have domain.tld that point to the domain controller. Confirm emails are being sent; it looks like postfix on the webserver is not receiving email. I have also joined the postfix list for help. If someone wants to try to subscribe and then send an email to the list, please feel free: http://www.mytimewithgod.net/mailman/listinfo/mtwg-prayer
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Arnold" <carnold@electrichendrix.com> To: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 5:02:14 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Beginner questions
Dan Phillips wrote:
Thanks Dan. There are some lists that i belong to that i do not get the email that i sent but i see others response to it. Well, i subscribed to my list with my yahoo account and sent an email from gmail to the list and i did not get that email in my yahoo account. Still seems like something is not working.
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/carnold%40electrichendr...
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![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/5c0e5dfd9fb50b2a5cba34952c5a7080.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Using the DNS report tool from www.dnsstuff.com
It says you don't have a MX record for that domain. Quoting:
MX FAIL
MX Category ERROR: I couldn't find any MX records for
mytimewithgod.net. If you want to receive E-mail on this domain, you
should have MX record(s). Without any MX records, mailservers should
attempt to deliver mail to the A record for mytimewithgod.net. I can't
continue in a case like this, so I'm assuming you don't receive mail on
this domain.
Mail FAIL Connect to mail servers ERROR: I could not find any
mailservers for mytimewithgod.net.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
I subscribed to your list and got a confirm email from the list. I
replied to this, but was never told I was subscribed. Looking the
headers for your confirmation email and I quote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Received: from mail.electrichendrix.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost
(mail.electrichendrix.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with
ESMTP id 33sehzUyOLfY for <dennis@eaachat.org>; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:45:51
-0400 (EDT)
Received: from web.site (unknown [192.168.123.3]) by
mail.electrichendrix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9289EBDB for
<dennis@eaachat.org>; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:45:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from web.site (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by web.site (Postfix)
with ESMTP id 81A692CE47 for <dennis@eaachat.org>; Mon, 1 Oct 2007
07:45:51 -0400 (EDT)MIME-Version: 1.0
The IP address 192.168.123.3 isn't right - is it? That's an internal address on your intranet rather than a valid Internet IP.
Also - I sent 2 test emails to the list address on the webpage: mtwg-prayer@lists.mytimewithgod.net
and got the following mail returned error from MAILER-DAEMON@mail.electrichendrix.com
Final-Recipient: rfc822; mtwg-prayer@lists.mytimewithgod.net
Original-Recipient: rfc822;mtwg-prayer@lists.mytimewithgod.net
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; 192.168.123.3
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 <mtwg-prayer@lists.mytimewithgod.net>: Relay
access
denied
Dennis
Chris Arnold wrote:
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4b75083608cd94d8d90072b6bbdd803d.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Dennis Morgan wrote:
I have 2 domains, electrichendrix.com and mytimewithgod.net. Both are through dyndns.com as i have 1 dhcp address from my provider. Both domains have a mx record in dyndns.com's system. It doesn't really matter, as mail going to mytimewithgod.net is pointed to the same ip as electrichendrix.com and i have no problem getting mytimewithgod.net mail on my mailserver. Passed this isp connection i have a juniper firewall that does nat or more appropriately, pat. Behind this firewall, sits the 192.168.x.x subnet and the 192.168.x.x subnet. These subnets are connected via switches to the firewall. On these subnets, i have a DC, a mailserver and a webserver. It is funny that mytimewithgod.net does not report a mx record; i am looking at the mx right now on dyndns.com. Anyway, mytimewithgod.net is making it to my mailserver and being forwarded to the webserver which has mailman installed.
Correct
Here is the problem, i believe.......mail from the mailserver is being rejected by the webserver as "relay access denied". On the webserver, which has postfix, in main.cf i have entered relayhost = main.mail.server but i still get the same response "relay access denied". I have asked on the postfix mailinglist, how to have postfix accept mail from my webserver. Still waiting for a reply.
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/5c0e5dfd9fb50b2a5cba34952c5a7080.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Is my subscription request in your moderation queue?
I don't know hardly anything about mailman - I'm here to learn - but just a notion. If you'd go ahead and enter the real values you have in your configuration files instead of things like:
main.cf i have entered relayhost = main.mail.server
people like Mark and Brad would likely be able to be of more help.
Chris Arnold wrote:
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4b75083608cd94d8d90072b6bbdd803d.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Dennis Morgan wrote:
Is my subscription request in your moderation queue?
I do not see it in membership management. I have not had a problem subscribing to the list. Can you try again?
I have a problem with this as this list is indexed by major search engines and i do not want things like for the whole world to see.
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/746f7519ba02fb0d815e59f305c53fa2.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Chris Arnold wrote:
DNSStuff is a bit too fussy here.
Your list is in the lists.mytimewithgod.net domain which does have an MX pointing to mytimewithgod.net and mytimewithgod.net has a single A record. Thus, mail to lists.mytimewithgod.net is delivered via mytimewithgod.net which is fine. Also, mail to mytimewithgod.net will work too because mytimewithgod.net has a single A record and even though DNSStuff doesn't like it, this is sufficient for delivery of mail.
I think this affects outgoing mail, not incoming mail. It may or may not be required/desirable depending on whether you need/want Postfix to deliver mail via the mailserver box.
I have asked on the postfix mailinglist, how to have postfix accept mail from my webserver. Still waiting for a reply.
That's the right place to ask.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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