From: Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:42:18 -0700

On 3/30/16 5:49 AM, Adrian Pepper wrote:

...

However, in https://python.org/mailman/admin/mailman-users/privacy/spam you can only Dicard or Hold. (Complete list Defer, Hold, Reject, Discard, Accept).

It would be nice if for each filter rule individually you could choose "discard and forward to moderator".

Has that actually been implemented in subsequent versions of Mailman 2, i.e. between 2.1.12 and 2.1.21 ?

No.

It is an interesting idea. The problem is that unless someone submits a patch, I'm the one that would end up doing it, and even with a patch, I'd need to audit it. I'm starting to get more involved in MM 3, and as such, have less time for MM 2.1 "nice to haves". You can always submit a request for MM 2.1 at <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+filebug>.

I don't know what your mods "for recognizing alternative email addresses" are, but there is since MM 2.1.19 and equivalent_domains list attribute to, e.g., say that @mac.com, @me.com and @icloud.com are all the same for list membership purposes.

It is about user name equivalences, and, even if it could be made not specific to here, my hunch is the mods are specific to here, with built-in database lookup assumptions and stuff. I didn't really need to say what the local mods are for, I was just indicating an additional possible reason for inertia.

...

Now certainly we wouldn't want [or would appreciate the choice not] to "forward to moderator" all discards on the /spam page. And, really, the "does this fail the membership (filter) requirements" is something you'd like to be able to determine in the spam filters. (And simply discard those, perhaps forwarding if they are not too spammy). (Because really really we'd like to "hold" slightly spammy messages which meet membership requirements, but discard-and-forward the others, but discarding-and-forwarding-to-moderator all would be reasonable compromise).

The easiest way for me to implement this would simply be to add a "Discard and Forward" action to the other choices. Adding a Forward checkbox that would apply to any selected action is certainly more flexible, but more complicated to implement.

Yes, that's what I assumed might be done unless it really turned out to be easier to make it a separate checkbox. With the separate checkbox you could end up with the silliness of "hold and forward to moderator".

Thanks for the reply, I'll try to find time to send my suggestion to https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+filebug

Adrian.