I have two lists on one mailman server. Due to recent spam influx I've set them to automatically reject posts from nonmembers (generic_non-member_action is reject). But for one of the lists rejection messages are sent, but not for the other. Any clues on what I might be happening?
/Par
-- Par Leijonhufvud par@hunter-gatherer.org Prisons are built with stones of law, brothels with bricks of Religion. -- William Blake
Par Leijonhufvud wrote:
I have two lists on one mailman server. Due to recent spam influx I've set them to automatically reject posts from nonmembers (generic_non-member_action is reject). But for one of the lists rejection messages are sent, but not for the other. Any clues on what I might be happening?
Are the messages being held for some reason?
If the message is not held and not posted to the list, it must be rejected or discarded. Check Mailman's vette log. If the message is discarded (or held), there will be an entry in the vette log. If there is no such entry, and the message didn't reach the list, it must have been rejected and a notice should have been sent to the sender. If this is not happening, I don't know why.
You can also check Mailman's error log to be sure there wasn't a processing error of some sort causing the message to be shunted.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> [2007.07.30] wrote:
Par Leijonhufvud wrote:
I have two lists on one mailman server. Due to recent spam influx I've set them to automatically reject posts from nonmembers (generic_non-member_action is reject). But for one of the lists rejection messages are sent, but not for the other. Any clues on what I might be happening?
Are the messages being held for some reason?
Not listed in the admin database page, mo mail to the moderator.
If the message is not held and not posted to the list, it must be rejected or discarded. Check Mailman's vette log.
Not posted to the list, no traces in the vette log (but traces of spam that was held before, and of manual discards of said spam.
If the message is discarded (or held), there will be an entry in the vette log. If there is no such entry, and the message didn't reach the list, it must have been rejected and a notice should have been sent to the sender. If this is not happening, I don't know why.
You can also check Mailman's error log to be sure there wasn't a processing error of some sort causing the message to be shunted.
The error log contains batches of lines like:
: Jul 30 18:54:24 2007 (22938) SHUNTING: 1185814463.897408+034ae029c666d13146eca9da915230fe846786c9
: Jul 31 00:47:55 2007 (22938) Uncaught runner exception: incomplete format
: Jul 31 00:47:55 2007 (22938) Traceback (most recent call last):
: File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
: self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
: File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 170, in _onefile
: keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
: File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose
: more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
: File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline
: sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
: File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py", line 111, in process
: do_reject(mlist)
: File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py", line 139, in do_reject
: raise Errors.RejectMessage,
: File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 90, in _
: return tns % dict
: ValueError: incomplete format
I just performed another test (non-member mail to both the working and the non-working lists). The timing on the error log lines match the posting attempt to the non-working list, there is one line in bounce matching the attempt to the working list, but none for the non-working attempt.
/Par
-- Par Leijonhufvud par@hunter-gatherer.org "Those who restrain Desire, do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained" -- William Blake
Par Leijonhufvud wrote:
The error log contains batches of lines like:
: Jul 30 18:54:24 2007 (22938) SHUNTING: 1185814463.897408+034ae029c666d13146eca9da915230fe846786c9 : Jul 31 00:47:55 2007 (22938) Uncaught runner exception: incomplete format : Jul 31 00:47:55 2007 (22938) Traceback (most recent call last): : File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop : self._onefile(msg, msgdata) : File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 170, in _onefile : keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) : File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose : more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) : File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline : sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) : File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py", line 111, in process : do_reject(mlist) : File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py", line 139, in do_reject : raise Errors.RejectMessage,
: File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 90, in _ : return tns % dict : ValueError: incomplete format
The nonmember_rejection_notice for the non working list contains a 'bad format'. This is probably because it contains a bare percent symbol (%). If you want to include percent symbols in the text of this message, they have to be doubled as in "More than 98%% of the non-member posts to this list are spam". This will result in a single '%' in the result.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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