
Hello,
I have my domain set up on a shared web hosting (VPS, Virtual Private Hosting) service. Many users have gotten Mailman working by themselves (no sysadmin help). I am missing a step and I don't know what it is.
I have it all installed and it seems to be working fine - except for one thing. When I send messages, my domain's catch-all alias catches the postings instead of Mailman. The Mailman web interface is working fine. I have re-traced the steps in the installation process a few times and can't seem to find what I'm missing.
In smtp-failure, I'm seeing relaying denied errors. The other logs look kind of weird too, but I'm not sure which information would be most useful to share.
I did peak at the FAQ referred to in other posts: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp ...and it looks like I've done everything right. Well obviously I haven't, but I can't figure out what it is.
I installed Mailman v2.1.5 via source. The MTA is sendmail and it's running Red Hat Fedora.
Thank you for your help, -MikeD

At 7:28 PM -0700 2004-09-30, Mike Dillinger wrote:
I have my domain set up on a shared web hosting (VPS, Virtual Private Hosting) service. Many users have gotten Mailman working by themselves (no sysadmin help). I am missing a step and I don't know what it is.
Well, considering that you've looked at the FAQ entry on this
issue and you still haven't resolved the problem, I'd say that the next step is to turn up the level of debugging you're getting in your MTA. You should also consider contacting your provider, since they will know a lot more about your particular hardware/OS/software configuration, etc....
I have it all installed and it seems to be working fine - except for one thing. When I send messages, my domain's catch-all alias catches the postings instead of Mailman. The Mailman web interface is working fine. I have re-traced the steps in the installation process a few times and can't seem to find what I'm missing.
Sounds like the aliases haven't been set up properly, or you
don't have the mm-handler stuff installed correctly. I don't have first-hand experience here, but I don't know for sure that the mm-handler stuff will work in a virtual private server environment.
In smtp-failure, I'm seeing relaying denied errors. The other logs look kind of weird too, but I'm not sure which information would be most useful to share.
Therein lies the problem. We can't tell you which information
will be most useful, because you don't usually figure out what is useful until you see everything and then spot the problem.
Afterwards, it's easy to figure out which parts of the logs you
should have been looking at. ;-)
I installed Mailman v2.1.5 via source. The MTA is sendmail and it's running Red Hat Fedora.
Which method of integration with sendmail did you choose? Are
you using aliases or mm-handler?
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On 10/01/2004 02:23 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
Well, considering that you've looked at the FAQ entry on this issue
and you still haven't resolved the problem, I'd say that the next step is to turn up the level of debugging you're getting in your MTA. You should also consider contacting your provider, since they will know a lot more about your particular hardware/OS/software configuration, etc....
They limit what I can see in /var/log. There's really only Apache logs and MySQL logs. That's it.
They want to charge me some astronomical installation fee. I'd prefer to tackle this alone first. This has been done and I have a feeling I'm missing something simple and I'm going to be slapping my forehead when I'm done.
Sounds like the aliases haven't been set up properly, or you don't
have the mm-handler stuff installed correctly. I don't have first-hand experience here, but I don't know for sure that the mm-handler stuff will work in a virtual private server environment.
In smtp-failure, I'm seeing relaying denied errors. The other logs look kind of weird too, but I'm not sure which information would be most useful to share.
Therein lies the problem. We can't tell you which information will
be most useful, because you don't usually figure out what is useful until you see everything and then spot the problem.
Afterwards, it's easy to figure out which parts of the logs you
should have been looking at. ;-)
I installed Mailman v2.1.5 via source. The MTA is sendmail and it's running Red Hat Fedora.
Which method of integration with sendmail did you choose? Are you
using aliases or mm-handler?
I am using the aliases method. I don't even know what mm-handler is. I followed the INSTALL file that comes with the source distro and it does not mention mm-handler.
Thanks, -MikeD

On 10/01/2004 02:23 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
Well, considering that you've looked at the FAQ entry on this issue
and you still haven't resolved the problem, I'd say that the next step is to turn up the level of debugging you're getting in your MTA. You should also consider contacting your provider, since they will know a lot more about your particular hardware/OS/software configuration, etc....
They limit what I can see in /var/log. There's really only Apache logs and MySQL logs. That's it.
They want to charge me some astronomical installation fee. I'd prefer to tackle this alone first. This has been done and I have a feeling I'm missing something simple and I'm going to be slapping my forehead when I'm done.
Sounds like the aliases haven't been set up properly, or you don't
have the mm-handler stuff installed correctly. I don't have first-hand experience here, but I don't know for sure that the mm-handler stuff will work in a virtual private server environment.
In smtp-failure, I'm seeing relaying denied errors. The other logs look kind of weird too, but I'm not sure which information would be most useful to share.
Therein lies the problem. We can't tell you which information will
be most useful, because you don't usually figure out what is useful until you see everything and then spot the problem.
Afterwards, it's easy to figure out which parts of the logs you
should have been looking at. ;-)
I installed Mailman v2.1.5 via source. The MTA is sendmail and it's running Red Hat Fedora.
Which method of integration with sendmail did you choose? Are you
using aliases or mm-handler?
I am using the aliases method. I don't even know what mm-handler is. I followed the INSTALL file that comes with the source distro and it does not mention mm-handler.
UPDATE: I fixed it and like I said, it would be elementary. I was experimenting around and disabled my domain's catch-all filter and Mailman works perfectly now. I am a little disappointed that I can't use the catch-all filter (unless someone might have some cool trick I can do in /etc/aliases?), but I can live without it. Thank you very much for your help.
-MikeD
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