having bounced messages delivered to administrator or sender

Hello, I used mailman recently for a new mailing list, and after some time I discovered that bounced messages are not delivered to the sender or the administrator. In my memory, they were delivered in older installations of mailman. Is there an option to configure such delivery? I can see the bounce process handled in my log : (delivered to command: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman) and uncaught bounce notification are delivered correctly. Thanks for help.

Hugo Vandeputte wrote:
Hello, I used mailman recently for a new mailing list, and after some time I discovered that bounced messages are not delivered to the sender or the administrator. In my memory, they were delivered in older installations of mailman. Is there an option to configure such delivery?
If bounce_processing is Yes and bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is Yes, the bounce that causes the user's bounce score to reach the threshold and disables delivery will be attached to the notice to the admin. Other bounces simply increment the user's bounce score, and that fact is logged in Mailman's bounce log, but the bounce message itself is neither saved nor reported. This has always been the case in standard Mailman 2.1.x.

Le 18/01/2014 22:34, Mark Sapiro a écrit :
Hugo Vandeputte wrote:
Hello, I used mailman recently for a new mailing list, and after some time I discovered that bounced messages are not delivered to the sender or the administrator. In my memory, they were delivered in older installations of mailman. Is there an option to configure such delivery?
If bounce_processing is Yes and bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is Yes, the bounce that causes the user's bounce score to reach the threshold and disables delivery will be attached to the notice to the admin. Other bounces simply increment the user's bounce score, and that fact is logged in Mailman's bounce log, but the bounce message itself is neither saved nor reported. This has always been the case in standard Mailman 2.1.x.
Thanks for your response. I tried to disable bounce_processing and others options but never received bounce reports. If it's the normal behavior for mailman 2.1.x, it's ok, I will just use a batch scanning postfix logs...

On 01/19/2014 01:49 AM, Hugo Vandeputte wrote:
Thanks for your response. I tried to disable bounce_processing and others options but never received bounce reports. If it's the normal behavior for mailman 2.1.x, it's ok, I will just use a batch scanning postfix logs...
If you turn bounce_processing off, all bounces will be ignored by Mailman.
If you turn bounce_processing on with appropriate settings and the notifications on, Mailman will process bounces according to your settings.
If all you want is to see what you can find in the postfix logs, Mailman with bounce_processing on will do much more. It will log all real bounces in Mailman's bounce log in a form much more convenient to see than grepping the postfix logs and it will distinguish a bounce from a post or other message misdirected to the -bounces address and forward the latter to the owner.
If you really want the Mailman 2.0.x behavior where all bounces go to the list owner and are not otherwise processed by Mailman, just change the Postfix
LIST-bounces: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman LIST bounces"
alias to
LIST-bounces: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman LIST owner"

Le Dimanche 19 Janvier 2014 22:41 CET, Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net a écrit: If you turn bounce_processing off, all bounces will be ignored by Mailman.
If you turn bounce_processing on with appropriate settings and the notifications on, Mailman will process bounces according to your settings.
If all you want is to see what you can find in the postfix logs, Mailman with bounce_processing on will do much more. It will log all real bounces in Mailman's bounce log in a form much more convenient to see than grepping the postfix logs and it will distinguish a bounce from a post or other message misdirected to the -bounces address and forward the latter to the owner.
If you really want the Mailman 2.0.x behavior where all bounces go to the list owner and are not otherwise processed by Mailman, just change the Postfix
LIST-bounces: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman LIST bounces"
alias to
LIST-bounces: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman LIST owner"
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