send_reminders frequency
Hi all,
apologies if this is a faq and my google-fu's failing to find the answer: can I change send_reminders to e.g. yearly?
Thanks, Dima
On 1/29/20 7:43 AM, dmaziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
apologies if this is a faq and my google-fu's failing to find the answer: can I change send_reminders to e.g. yearly?
Mailman's cron/mailpasswds is run via cron. You can edit Mailman's crontab to run it on whatever schedule you like.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 1/29/20 12:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 1/29/20 7:43 AM, dmaziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
apologies if this is a faq and my google-fu's failing to find the answer: can I change send_reminders to e.g. yearly?
Mailman's cron/mailpasswds is run via cron. You can edit Mailman's crontab to run it on whatever schedule you like.
Thank you Mark
-- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu
I administer around a dozen (mostly v2.1) Mailman lists, but they are all on shared servers running cPanel or some equivalent "we won't let you get your hands dirty" interface. Not by my choice, and with wildly varying support from the server vendors.
I often see questions about how to do something or another that I would dearly love to do, only to find that the simple, straightforward procedure recommended is beyond my server credentials. It would be very helpful to me if those answers acknowledged that:
- this can't be done on a shared server implementation, don't bother trying
- this can also be done on a shared server, and here's how (or at least, the magic words to ask your vendor)
For example, the recent answer about "cloning" lists (impossible unless you have full access to the server's filesystem, then trivially easy) was disappointing because I have multiple lists that need to stay in-synch. So I wrote a Rexx program that screen-scrapes the Mailman configuration screens and generates a checklist of each extracted setting, input field, textarea, etc. for use when cloning a new list. It's a kludge compared to simply copying a couple of files into a new directory, but it works for those of us out here in the cheap seats.
Thanks,
-Chip-
On 1/29/2020 1:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 1/29/20 7:43 AM, dmaziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
apologies if this is a faq and my google-fu's failing to find the answer: can I change send_reminders to e.g. yearly?
Mailman's cron/mailpasswds is run via cron. You can edit Mailman's crontab to run it on whatever schedule you like.
On 1/29/20 4:33 PM, Chip Davis wrote:
I often see questions about how to do something or another that I would dearly love to do, only to find that the simple, straightforward procedure recommended is beyond my server credentials. It would be very helpful to me if those answers acknowledged that:
* this can't be done on a shared server implementation, don't bother trying * this can also be done on a shared server, and here's how (or at least, the magic words to ask your vendor)
I can understand your frustration when presented with a simple solution that you can't implement because of lack of access to the server or adverse impact on other users of a shared server.
I'm sure if you look through the archives, you'll find many posts with various caveats. I just did <https://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=%22if+you+have+access%22&l=mailman-users%40python.org> and got 218 hits, so it's not that we're completely oblivious to this issue, but frankly, I and others already spend a great deal of time and energy supporting Mailman as volunteers and taking the additional time on every thread to determine what if any disclaimer is required is something I don't think I can do.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 1/29/2020 6:33 PM, Chip Davis wrote:
I often see questions about how to do something or another that I would dearly love to do, only to find that the simple, straightforward procedure recommended is beyond my server credentials. It would be very helpful to me if those answers acknowledged that:
* this can't be done on a shared server implementation, don't bother trying * this can also be done on a shared server, and here's how (or at least, the magic words to ask your vendor)
Well, the crontab is mailman-global so changing it affects every list on the server. (Lucky for me, on this particular server that is acceptable.) That's obvious when you look at it.
What some provider may or may not let you do via their glitzy cGooey is a question to the provider. How would any of us know?
Dima
I just moved a cluster of domains to TMDHosting.com I had two Mailman mailing lists on the old service. I made a gziped tarball of the entire account using the usual tool. Staff at TMD brought it over and in minutes all my files were in place. But. They do not have Mailman in cPanel. They do not have Mailman available in Softalicious. This is a shared hosting type of account. I don't have root access to the server. Their suggestion was to create an email address the same as the mailing list address, then use that to set up BCC to a group of contacts in Roundcube. So I tried to create mymailinglist@mydomain.com I could not create the address. Instead I got an error message saying a mailing list with that address already exists. But the address does not show up in the list of email addresses in cPanel, so, I cannot delete it. I didn't think about the Mailman mailing lists when I set up to do the transfer. I took the time to save the member lists and some of the archives, but I should have gone ahead and deleted the lists. I did not suspect that the new service would not have Mailman. Every web service provider I've been with in years and years has had Mailman. So - what now? Anyone on TMDHosting? Have you been where I just landed? Thanks. Tim
On 1/30/20 9:03 PM, Tim H via Mailman-Users wrote:
I just moved a cluster of domains to TMDHosting.com I had two Mailman mailing lists on the old service. I made a gziped tarball of the entire account using the usual tool. Staff at TMD brought it over and in minutes all my files were in place. But. They do not have Mailman in cPanel.
As far as I know, every cPanel installation has Mailman 2.1.
The issue may be that they just dropped your files into somewhere in /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman. You can't just do that. cPanel's Mailman is different enough that the config.pck files aren't directly compatible and the file names and or locations maybe different to.
See <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030641>.
Also, there are others on this list who are much more knowledgeable about cPanel Mailman than I am, and they may chime in.
So I tried to create mymailinglist@mydomain.com I could not create the address. Instead I got an error message saying a mailing list with that address already exists.
Which indicates cPanel is aware of it.
But the address does not show up in the list of email addresses in cPanel, so, I cannot delete it.
You need advice from someone who knows more about Mailman in cPanel than I do.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 1/31/20 12:03 AM, Tim H via Mailman-Users wrote:
I just moved a cluster of domains to TMDHosting.com I had two Mailman mailing lists on the old service. I made a gziped tarball of the entire account using the usual tool. Staff at TMD brought it over and in minutes all my files were in place. But. They do not have Mailman in cPanel. They do not have Mailman available in Softalicious. This is a shared hosting type of account. I don't have root access to the server. Their suggestion was to create an email address the same as the mailing list address, then use that to set up BCC to a group of contacts in Roundcube. So I tried to create mymailinglist@mydomain.com I could not create the address. Instead I got an error message saying a mailing list with that address already exists. But the address does not show up in the list of email addresses in cPanel, so, I cannot delete it. I didn't think about the Mailman mailing lists when I set up to do the transfer. I took the time to save the member lists and some of the archives, but I should have gone ahead and deleted the lists. I did not suspect that the new service would not have Mailman. Every web service provider I've been with in years and years has had Mailman. So - what now? Anyone on TMDHosting? Have you been where I just landed? Thanks. Tim
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Hi Tim,
Screenshots of what you are seeing would be helpful. Are you sure Mailman is not accessible via cPanel? They are under Mailing Lists in the Email section of cPanel. Mailing lists and email accounts are treated as separate services on a cPanel server. Also Mailman is not available via Softaculous.
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