Greetings, Redux. :-)
I have a long running MM with three public lists in it. One of them is archived, and two of them are not. i noticed today that the *non-archived* lists have attachments stored (gigs of them) under:
~mailman/logs/archives.old/<unarchived-list>/attachments/<date>/<SomeKindOfHash>/attachment.html
It doesnt appear for every day, but it appears to be for every day that had attachments.
Is this normal? I dont have this stuff for the archived list, which has all archives and looks fine. I'm flubbered. I think this is the missing question to the Great Disappearing Disk Space Question as well: it's volume fits perfectly.
Where did I miss this in the FAQ? Thanks!
Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin_at_mfn.org 0xpgp_key_mgmt_is_broken-dont_bother
"Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty."
Joseph Pulitzer 1907 Speech
J.A. Terranson wrote:
Yes. These are the attachments (or html parts) that were scrubbed from the plain text digest and stored and replaced by links to the content in the digest. The only way to avoid this is to set the list(s) digestable attribute to No.
I dont have this stuff for the archived list, which has all archives and looks fine.
I don't know why you wouldn't have it for the archived list unless the archived list also has content filtering that removes all the attachments and html parts. In fact, for archived lists there are normally two copies of every scrubbed part - one scrubbed from the digest and one scrubbed from the archived message - unless scrub_nondigest is Yes in which case the attachments/html parts are scrubbed only once before the message is delivered/digested/archived.
I don't think it's in the FAQ.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On Fri, 15 May 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Am i safe setting to off and then deleting this garbage?
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin_at_mfn.org 0xpgp_key_mgmt_is_broken-dont_bother
"Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty."
Joseph Pulitzer 1907 Speech
J.A. Terranson wrote:
You can delete any of it at any time. The worst that happens is someone has saved a digest with a link that no longer works. If you actually have no digest members, this is not a problem.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On Fri, 15 May 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Interesting question: Since I dont save archives, CAN i have digest members?
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin_at_mfn.org 0xpgp_key_mgmt_is_broken-dont_bother
"Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty."
Joseph Pulitzer 1907 Speech
J.A. Terranson wrote:
Sure you can.
The Digest options -> digestable setting controls whether you can have digest members. It has nothing to do with archiving or archives other than the fact that if your list is digestable and if content filtering allows other than text/plain content, that non-text/plain content (and even text/plain content with unknown character set) will be removed from the 'plain' format digest as it is built, whether or not it actually has any recipients, and stored in the archives/private/LISTNAME/attachments/ tree and replaced by a link to the stored content.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
J.A. Terranson wrote:
Yes. These are the attachments (or html parts) that were scrubbed from the plain text digest and stored and replaced by links to the content in the digest. The only way to avoid this is to set the list(s) digestable attribute to No.
I dont have this stuff for the archived list, which has all archives and looks fine.
I don't know why you wouldn't have it for the archived list unless the archived list also has content filtering that removes all the attachments and html parts. In fact, for archived lists there are normally two copies of every scrubbed part - one scrubbed from the digest and one scrubbed from the archived message - unless scrub_nondigest is Yes in which case the attachments/html parts are scrubbed only once before the message is delivered/digested/archived.
I don't think it's in the FAQ.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On Fri, 15 May 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Am i safe setting to off and then deleting this garbage?
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin_at_mfn.org 0xpgp_key_mgmt_is_broken-dont_bother
"Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty."
Joseph Pulitzer 1907 Speech
J.A. Terranson wrote:
You can delete any of it at any time. The worst that happens is someone has saved a digest with a link that no longer works. If you actually have no digest members, this is not a problem.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On Fri, 15 May 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Interesting question: Since I dont save archives, CAN i have digest members?
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin_at_mfn.org 0xpgp_key_mgmt_is_broken-dont_bother
"Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty."
Joseph Pulitzer 1907 Speech
J.A. Terranson wrote:
Sure you can.
The Digest options -> digestable setting controls whether you can have digest members. It has nothing to do with archiving or archives other than the fact that if your list is digestable and if content filtering allows other than text/plain content, that non-text/plain content (and even text/plain content with unknown character set) will be removed from the 'plain' format digest as it is built, whether or not it actually has any recipients, and stored in the archives/private/LISTNAME/attachments/ tree and replaced by a link to the stored content.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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