I recently installed mailman 2.1 (upgrading over our mailman 2.13) to correct a problem with list admin passwords.

At the time of the upgrade, I was running python 2.1

Today I finally ran genaliases to modify the old mm list aliases for the new mailman.

With the aliases in place, I sent e-mail to one of my lists... "newlist".

Instead of the message going through, I get back the following from the mailer-daemon:

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/users/rtfm/mailman/mail/mailman post newtest" (reason: 1) (expanded from: <newtest@cs>)

----- Transcript of session follows ----- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/users/rtfm/mailman/scripts/post", line 69, in ? main() File "/users/rtfm/mailman/scripts/post", line 64, in main tolist=1, _plaintext=1) File "/users/rtfm/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 119, in enqueue msgfp = open(msgfile, 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/users/rtfm/mailman/qfiles/in/1042138477.3629709+2b891898799d3290ae81d057bdd6e8 2a56ffe112.msg' 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1

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What is causing the above?

OK, so I figure, since I was running python 2.1, maybe mailman 2.1 would rather me run python 2.2.2.

I then installed python 2.2.2. Directly afterwards, I rebuilt (make clean, configure, make, make install) mailman 2.1 again, and then, ran check_perms (and corrected anything that needed correcting so that check_perms now comes back clean.

Now, when I start to run the scripts/mailman script to startup mailmanctl, I immediately get lots of messages that look like this:

# ./mailman start cs:/users/rtfm/mailman/scripts:{153} Traceback (most recent call last): File "/users/rtfm/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 77, in ? from Mailman.i18n import _ File "/users/rtfm/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 18, in ? import time ImportError: No module named time Traceback (most recent call last): File "/users/rtfm/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 77, in ? from Mailman.i18n import _ File "/users/rtfm/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 18, in ? import time ImportError: No module named time Traceback (most recent call last):

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I get the above messages continuously. What's happening here?

Mind you, when I had python 2.1 installed, I had no problem running mailmanctl (except that mail sent to lists would yield the message near the top of this e-mail. With python2.2.2 installed, I can't even get mailmanctl to run properly... or rather, whatever it's running is giving me the errors directly above.

And remember, *after* I installed python 2.2.2, I *rebuilt* mailman.

So, what should I do here?

If python's an issue, I'll go back to python 2.1 and hope someone here can help me fix the problem with the mailer-daemon message. At least python 2.1, I could run the mailman startup script.

(Note, the machine mailman is built on is Solaris 2.8.

Thanks in advance!

Steve Rifkin steve410@cs.jhu.edu