Mailman on TMDHosting.com
Top posting my reply, hope this is OK. Oddly, my host included a Terminal window! I have never seen that before. Attached are screen shots of some ls -l results. Mark are these normal for a mailman installation? I think my host does not want to support Mailman. Maybe new accounts aren't getting it in cPanel but the program is still on my server to support legacy accounts that are still using it. And yes, I replied to Brian, with screen shots. Thanks! Tim On Friday, January 31, 2020, 07:29:24 PM EST, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 1/31/20 2:51 PM, Tim H wrote:
On Friday, January 31, 2020, 12:43:39 PM EST, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 1/30/20 9:03 PM, Tim H via Mailman-Users wrote: > I just moved a cluster of domains to TMDHosting.com > I had two Mailman mailing lists on the old service. I made a gziped tarball of the entire account using the usual tool. Staff at TMD brought it over and in minutes all my files were in place. > But. They do not have Mailman in cPanel.
As far as I know, every cPanel installation has Mailman 2.1.
The issue may be that they just dropped your files into somewhere in /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman. You can't just do that. cPanel's Mailman is different enough that the config.pck files aren't directly compatible and the file names and or locations maybe different to.
See <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030641>.
I searched my entire file set for "mailman" and came up empty.
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman is in the server's file system, but it is not somethin that users on a shared cPanel host have access to.
I thought all cPanel installations came with Mailman. Maybe something happened and it isn't the case since some later version.
I doubt it, although I suppose it's possible that the host disabled it. But then, the fact that cPanel thinks your list address exist seems to say your list is at least partially there.
This is an issue that your hosting provider needs to resolve, but if they are like a lot of cPanel hosts, Mailman is only there because it comes with cPanel and they aren't interested in supporting it.
Brian is an exception. See his post at <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2020-January/084961.html> and follow up with him.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 2/1/20 9:54 AM, Tim H wrote:
Top posting my reply, hope this is OK. Oddly, my host included a Terminal window! I have never seen that before.
And it appears from the # prompt in that window that you have root access to the server. This seems to say to me that the host doesn't have much of a clue at all about what they are doing.
Attached are screen shots of some ls -l results.
Mark are these normal for a mailman installation?
Your screenshots were removed by the list's content filtering, but I got them in off-list mail. The only interesting one is
# ls -l /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman
'x 2 mailman mailman 22 Nov 11 01:37 bin 'x 2 mailman mailman 170 Nov 11 01:37 cgi-bin 'x 2 mailman mailman 21 Nov 11 01:37 mail
Note, this would be much better just copied and pasted into your email rather than attached as a screenshot.
Yes, these are normal, but there is much more missing. If this were actually a working Mailman installation there would also be archives, cron, data, icons, lists, locks, logs, Mailman, messages, pythonlib, qfiles, scripts, spam and tests directories in addition to the bin, cgi-bin and mail directories that are there.
So basically, Mailman is not really installed in any functional way.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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