Message may contain ... administrivia?
Well now I've seen everything. Why would Mailman send a return message to a subscriber to a mailing list that says their message couldn't be posted to the mailing list because "message may contain administrivia"?
In a message of Thu, 01 Oct 2015 01:35:02 -0400, Steve Matzura writes:
Well now I've seen everything. Why would Mailman send a return message to a subscriber to a mailing list that says their message couldn't be posted to the mailing list because "message may contain administrivia".
If your subject contains just one of these words, or this word followed by a reasonable number of arguments, or if the content of your message is again, one line, one of these words, or one of them followed by a reasonable number of arguments, then your message can be held.
ADMINDATA = { # admin keyword: (minimum #args, maximum #args) 'confirm': (1, 1), 'help': (0, 0), 'info': (0, 0), 'lists': (0, 0), 'options': (0, 0), 'password': (2, 2), 'remove': (0, 0), 'set': (3, 3), 'subscribe': (0, 3), 'unsubscribe': (0, 1), 'who': (0, 0), }
You can turn this off. Under general options, look for (Administrivia filter) Check postings and intercept ones that seem to be administrative requests?
I mostly turn mine off, as I haven't found it very useful. It would be a good idea if your list was plagued by people trying to be sophisticated in using the list commands and mailing the list rather than list-request. This sort of thing happens to me about once every 5 years, over the management of a large number of lists. It is more common for me to get mail on lists Subject: I don't understand this error
Help <some wretched error number generated by microsoft>
I am curious -- does mailman 3 have this feature?
Laura
In a message of Thu, 01 Oct 2015 08:56:57 +0200, Laura Creighton writes:
management of a large number of lists. It is more common for me to get mail on lists Subject: I don't understand this error
Help <some wretched error number generated by microsoft>
Hmmm. On further thought, I think that one would go through. Its mail with the subject: I don't understand Microsoft error XXXXXXX and the content Help
that I don't want caught, so I turn the thing off.
Laura
On 09/30/2015 11:56 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:
I am curious -- does mailman 3 have this feature?
Yes. See <http://mailman.readthedocs.org/en/latest/src/mailman/rules/docs/administrivi...>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Guilty as charged. On several counts. Oy!
On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 08:56:57 +0200, you wrote:
In a message of Thu, 01 Oct 2015 01:35:02 -0400, Steve Matzura writes:
Well now I've seen everything. Why would Mailman send a return message to a subscriber to a mailing list that says their message couldn't be posted to the mailing list because "message may contain administrivia".
If your subject contains just one of these words, or this word followed by a reasonable number of arguments, or if the content of your message is again, one line, one of these words, or one of them followed by a reasonable number of arguments, then your message can be held.
ADMINDATA = { # admin keyword: (minimum #args, maximum #args) 'confirm': (1, 1), 'help': (0, 0), 'info': (0, 0), 'lists': (0, 0), 'options': (0, 0), 'password': (2, 2), 'remove': (0, 0), 'set': (3, 3), 'subscribe': (0, 3), 'unsubscribe': (0, 1), 'who': (0, 0), }
You can turn this off. Under general options, look for (Administrivia filter) Check postings and intercept ones that seem to be administrative requests?
I mostly turn mine off, as I haven't found it very useful. It would be a good idea if your list was plagued by people trying to be sophisticated in using the list commands and mailing the list rather than list-request. This sort of thing happens to me about once every 5 years, over the management of a large number of lists. It is more common for me to get mail on lists Subject: I don't understand this error
Help <some wretched error number generated by microsoft>
I am curious -- does mailman 3 have this feature?
Laura
On Oct 1, 2015, at 1:35 AM, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Well now I've seen everything. Why would Mailman send a return message to a subscriber to a mailing list that says their message couldn't be posted to the mailing list because "message may contain administrivia"?
When e-mail lists had no web interface, subscribers would often send admin commands - "unsubscribe", "set digest", etc., to the actual list instead of the admin address. This was pretty common when MJ lists were ported to MM. Those filters are in place to catch those, in part to avoid the follow on "RTFM" posts to the main list.
Probably just as well to turn them off, most people use the web interface nowadays and have for some time.
--Bryan
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 11:10:35 -0400 Bryan Blackwell <bryan@skiblack.com> wrote:
Hello Bryan,
When e-mail lists had no web interface, subscribers would often send admin commands - "unsubscribe", "set digest", etc., to the actual list
Sadly, many people still do. Despite the appearance of footer notes telling them where to send admin stuff. :-(
-- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Well I don't want you to think I'm being obscene Fish - The Damned
On Thursday 01 October 2015, Bryan Blackwell wrote:
Probably just as well to turn them off, most people use the web interface nowadays and have for some time.
Very long time for some of us, almost got kicked off of a mailing list about 15 years ago when I discovered List Serve had added a web interface before the list owner knew. Accused me of 'hacking' :-O Same guy later moved that list to Mailman 2.0.6 which was how I learned of its existence.
William
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