On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Mark Sapiro wrote:

You don't create users or mailboxes for Mailman's list addresses. This is handled by alias_maps, virtual_alias_domains, and virtual_alias_maps in Postfix, or, since this is Debian/Ubuntu, possibly by postfix_to_mailman.py.

Having set up Mailman on 3 separate systems, 2 Debian and 1 Ubuntu, I can personally recommend not using postfix2mailman. I understand it's not recommended, and there really seems to be no reason to use it. The alias maps way seems a lot easier to understand in my opinion. I just followed the installation manual and did just fine.

Geoff.

franc walter wrote:

I am very confused now. Could you indicate me the doc where you followed the installation?

I think all you need should be at <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html> and the first subsection 6.1.1.

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On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, franc walter wrote:

I am very confused now. Could you indicate me the doc where you followed the installation?

The installation guide can be found at http://list.org/site.html

The specific sections on Postfix can be found at http://list.org/mailman-install/node12.html

However I recommend reading through the whole thing because it's very easy to skip out important things in a package-based system like Debian/Ubuntu where things are done for you.

A couple of things to note:

1. The Mailman user under Debian/Ubuntu is list.

2. The alias and virtual-mailman files will be in /var/lib/mailman/data

IMHO, the section concerning virtual domains is more confusing than it needs to be, so feel free to ask if you get confused.

Geoff.

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On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, franc walter wrote:

Oh yes, this is not clear to me. I don't understand where the file:

/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman

should come from. Have i to build it?

This is built by the /usr/lib/mailman/bin/genaliases script, providing you have Mailman configured correctly.

I changed my postfix-main.cf from:

virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf,mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-email2email.cf

to:

virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf,mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-email2email.cf,hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman

This looks right to me.

And i put into my mm_cfg.py this (i restartet mailman and postfix after):

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['example.org', 'example2.org']

This also looks right. Try running genaliases.

Geoff.

Am Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:37:45 -0700 schriebst du:

You don't create users or mailboxes for Mailman's list addresses. This is handled by alias_maps, virtual_alias_domains, and virtual_alias_maps in Postfix, or, since this is Debian/Ubuntu, possibly by postfix_to_mailman.py.

If you are following the Postfix section of <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman>, you have left something out, possibly you didn't add

lists.example.com mailman:

to the Postfix transport table, or possibly you are not mailing to the lists.example.com domain.

I have exatcly this in the file /etc/postfix/transport and i have the db-file transport.db nearby.

But i don't send to mailman@lists.example.com but to mailman@example.com, like described in the mailman-welcome-mail. Is this wrong?

In order for this list to be of more help, we need more information including

the contents of mm_cfg.py

My mm_cfg.py:

# -*- python -*-

"""This is the module which takes your site-specific settings.

From a raw distribution it should be copied to mm_cfg.py. If you already have an mm_cfg.py, be careful to add in only the new settings you want. The complete set of distributed defaults, with annotation, are in ./Defaults. In mm_cfg, override only those you want to change, after the

from Defaults import *

line (see below).

Note that these are just default settings - many can be overridden via the admin and user interfaces on a per-list or per-user basis.

Note also that some of the settings are resolved against the active list setting by using the value as a format string against the list-instance-object's dictionary - see the distributed value of DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER for an example."""

####################################################### # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. #

from Defaults import *

############################################################## # Put YOUR site-specific configuration below, in mm_cfg.py . # # See Defaults.py for explanations of the values. #

#------------------------------------------------------------- # The name of the list Mailman uses to send password reminders # and similar. Don't change if you want mailman-owner to be # a valid local part. MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman'

#------------------------------------------------------------- # If you change these, you have to configure your http server # accordingly (Alias and ScriptAlias directives in most httpds) DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/cgi-bin/mailman/' PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/cgi-bin/mailman/private' IMAGE_LOGOS = '/images/mailman/'

#------------------------------------------------------------- # Default domain for email addresses of newly created MLs DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'example.org' #------------------------------------------------------------- # Default host for web interface of newly created MLs DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'example.org' #------------------------------------------------------------- # Required when setting any of its arguments. add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

#------------------------------------------------------------- # The default language for this server. DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en'

#------------------------------------------------------------- # Iirc this was used in pre 2.1, leave it for now USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = 0 # Still used?

#------------------------------------------------------------- # Unset send_reminders on newly created lists DEFAULT_SEND_REMINDERS = 0

#------------------------------------------------------------- # Uncomment this if you configured your MTA such that it # automatically recognizes newly created lists. # (see /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Exim4.Debian) # MTA=None # Misnomer, suppresses alias output on newlist

#------------------------------------------------------------- # Uncomment if you use Postfix virtual domains, but be sure to # see /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Debian first.

# fcw: 2010-07-06 Postfix MTA='Postfix'

#------------------------------------------------------------- # Uncomment if you want to filter mail with SpamAssassin. For # more information please visit this website: # http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(1, 'SpamAssassin')

# Note - if you're looking for something that is imported from mm_cfg, but you # didn't find it above, it's probably in /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py.

DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'de'

the output of postconf -n

root@example:~# postconf -n alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases append_dot_mydomain = no biff = no broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes config_directory = /etc/postfix content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024 mailbox_command = procmail -a "$EXTENSION" mailbox_size_limit = 0 mydestination = mail.example.org, www.example.org, lists.example.org, localhost.example.org, localhost mynetworks = myorigin = /etc/mailname readme_directory = no receive_override_options = no_address_mappings recipient_delimiter = + smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu) smtpd_hard_error_limit = 10 smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks permit_sasl_authenticated reject_unauth_destination reject_unauth_pipelining check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/roleaccount_exceptions check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/rbl_client_exceptions check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:60000 smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot smtpd_soft_error_limit = 8 smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/apache2/ssl/servercert.pem smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/apache2/ssl/serverkey.pem smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache smtpd_use_tls = yes virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf,mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-email2email.cf virtual_gid_maps = static:5000 virtual_mailbox_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-maps.cf virtual_transport = dovecot virtual_uid_maps = static:5000

and possibly additional Postfix information such as the contents of or at least anything to do with Mailman from master.cf

My Postfix - master.cf:

# # Postfix master process configuration file. For details on the format # of the file, see the master(5) manual page (command: "man 5 master"). # # Do not forget to execute "postfix reload" after editing this file. # # ========================================================================== # service type private unpriv chroot wakeup maxproc command + args # (yes) (yes) (yes) (never) (100) # ========================================================================== smtp inet n - - - - smtpd #submission inet n - - - - smtpd # -o smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt # -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes # -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject # -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING

smtps inet n - - - - smtpd -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING #628 inet n - - - - qmqpd

pickup fifo n - - 60 1 pickup -o content_filter= -o receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks cleanup unix n - - - 0 cleanup qmgr fifo n - n 300 1 qmgr #qmgr fifo n - - 300 1 oqmgr tlsmgr unix - - - 1000? 1 tlsmgr rewrite unix - - - - - trivial-rewrite bounce unix - - - - 0 bounce defer unix - - - - 0 bounce trace unix - - - - 0 bounce verify unix - - - - 1 verify flush unix n - - 1000? 0 flush proxymap unix - - n - - proxymap proxywrite unix - - n - 1 proxymap smtp unix - - - - - smtp # When relaying mail as backup MX, disable fallback_relay to avoid MX loops relay unix - - - - - smtp -o smtp_fallback_relay= # -o smtp_helo_timeout=5 -o smtp_connect_timeout=5 showq unix n - - - - showq error unix - - - - - error retry unix - - - - - error discard unix - - - - - discard local unix - n n - - local virtual unix - n n - - virtual lmtp unix - - - - - lmtp anvil unix - - - - 1 anvil scache unix - - - - 1 scache # # ==================================================================== # Interfaces to non-Postfix software. Be sure to examine the manual # pages of the non-Postfix software to find out what options it wants. # # Many of the following services use the Postfix pipe(8) delivery # agent. See the pipe(8) man page for information about ${recipient} # and other message envelope options. # ==================================================================== # # maildrop. See the Postfix MAILDROP_README file for details. # Also specify in main.cf: maildrop_destination_recipient_limit=1 # maildrop unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail argv=/usr/bin/maildrop -d ${recipient} # # See the Postfix UUCP_README file for configuration details. # uucp unix - n n - - pipe flags=Fqhu user=uucp argv=uux -r -n -z -a$sender - $nexthop!rmail ($recipient) # # Other external delivery methods. # ifmail unix - n n - - pipe flags=F user=ftn argv=/usr/lib/ifmail/ifmail -r $nexthop ($recipient) bsmtp unix - n n - - pipe flags=Fq. user=bsmtp argv=/usr/lib/bsmtp/bsmtp -t$nexthop -f$sender $recipient scalemail-backend unix - n n - 2 pipe flags=R user=scalemail argv=/usr/lib/scalemail/bin/scalemail-store ${nexthop} ${user} ${extension} mailman unix - n n - - pipe flags=FR user=list argv=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py ${nexthop} ${user} dovecot unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -d ${recipient}

smtp-amavis unix - - - - 2 smtp -o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200 -o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes -o disable_dns_lookups=yes -o max_use=20

127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - - - - smtpd -o content_filter= -o local_recipient_maps= -o relay_recipient_maps= -o smtpd_restriction_classes= -o smtpd_delay_reject=no -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject -o smtpd_helo_restrictions= -o smtpd_sender_restrictions= -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject -o smtpd_data_restrictions=reject_unauth_pipelining -o smtpd_end_of_data_restrictions= -o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8 -o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0 -o smtpd_soft_error_limit=1001 -o smtpd_hard_error_limit=1000 -o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0 -o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0 -o receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks # -o local_header_rewrite_clients=

Thank you very much for reply!

: franc walter