First time I've run into trouble with mailman after running several lists using it. I added a new list to my install yesterday which is an order of magnitude larger than any I've run before with 3,600 users. I set the list up as I would normally, adding the following aliases to my exim virtual hosts setup.
## wil-mailing mailing list wil-mailing: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post wil-mailing" wil-mailing-admin: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin wil-mailing" wil-mailing-bounces: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces wil-mailing" wil-mailing-confirm: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm wil-mailing" wil-mailing-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join wil-mailing" wil-mailing-leave: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave wil-mailing" wil-mailing-owner: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner wil-mailing" wil-mailing-request: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request wil-mailing" wil-mailing-subscribe: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe wil-mailing" wil-mailing-unsubscribe: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe wil-mailing"
About 300 addresses bounced on the first mailing and mailman sent probes to those addresses. The probes seem to be bouncing back to addresses that don't exist and ending up in my 'Catch all' mailbox. An example of one of the mails that ends up in my mailbox follows. Any idea what I've done wrong? I presume that bounce should end up going to mailman instead of me.
Many thanks,
James
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James Davis wrote:
First time I've run into trouble with mailman after running several lists using it. I added a new list to my install yesterday which is an order of magnitude larger than any I've run before with 3,600 users. I set the list up as I would normally, adding the following aliases to my exim virtual hosts setup.
If you set up Exim as suggested in <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.019.htp> and the references it points to, you won't need to bother with aliases at all for Mailman, and you won't have this problem.
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Return-path: <wil-mailing-bounces+a37afb682adc1df029af9c3b91bdb51bf105cae6@freecharity.org.uk>
Exim is not recognizing that addresses of the form local_part+suffix@... should be delivered as if +suffix is not there.
In your case, using aliases, I *think* your
systemalias:
router needs the following:
local_part_suffix = +* local_part_suffix_optional
either that or you need aliases like
wil-mailing-bounces+*: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces wil-mailing" wil-mailing-confirm+*: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm wil-mailing"
but it is much better to set up a router and transport for mailman as discussed in the material referenced in the FAQ or at <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node16.html>.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Mark Sapiro wrote:
either that or you need aliases like
wil-mailing-bounces+*: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces wil-mailing" wil-mailing-confirm+*: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm wil-mailing"
Those would be in addition to the others.
-- Mark Sapiro <msapiro@value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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