I'm corresponding with the sysops about those odd duplicated "pending moderator requests" messages and the sysops are claiming that mailman, itself, never sends messages, it only forwards them. I know that's not true but I don't know enough about the mechanics of mailman to make a definitive reply. His latest message
With a discussion list, a message is not created by the list server.
The list server accepts an email sent to the list address, which
posts it for moderation approval, which then sends the email sent to
that list to all subscribed users of that list. What's the definitive way to describe to him the [crontab?] mechanism that generates the overnight "pending moder requests" message that mailman generates. He doesn't even understand that with the messages I forwarded to him for comparison were generated by mailman -- he just mentioned that each of the two pending requests was a real user-sent message [of course true] but doesn't see the forest [that that was mailman notification] for the trees [the two message currently pending]. ugh
/bernie\
Bernie Cosell
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On 10/22/18 4:20 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
What's the definitive way to describe to him the [crontab?] mechanism that generates the overnight "pending moder requests" message that mailman generates. He doesn't even understand that with the messages I forwarded to him for comparison were generated by mailman -- he just mentioned that each of the two pending requests was a real user-sent message [of course true] but doesn't see the forest [that that was mailman notification] for the trees [the two message currently pending]. ugh
Trying to get this resolved is probably futile. Particularly if the host is running cPanel. cPanel includes Mailman in their distribution and while some cPanel hosts are very good at supporting Mailman, others only offer Mailman because it comes with cPanel and know nothing about Mailman and don't want to learn.
That said, you could try to explain to him that in addition to forwarding posts to list members, Mailman generates several different kinds of notices on its own. In particular, the "nn moderator requests waiting" message is generated by Mailman's cron/checkdbs job which is intended to be run by cron once daily, however in your case, it appears that this job is being run twice, either by two separate crontabs or two entries in one crontab.
Good luck.
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