Re: namespace per virtual possible?
Jim Popovitch wrote:
Yes and Yes... but it's not really a MM issue, it's a MTA issue. [...]
I'm using Mailman 2.0.13 in a virtual domain environment. I want to have lists with the same name but on different virtual domains. ie: news@mydomain and news@yourdomain
Is this possible in 2.0.x ?
Is this possible in 2.1?
It is possible with multiple installations of MM, but I think the original sender (and me) wants to know how this could be done with one installation. Is there a cook book for this problem?
MANY thanx for any hints, ++ralph
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It is possible with multiple installations of MM, but I think the original sender (and me) wants to know how this could be done with one installation. Is there a cook book for this problem?
Exactly. For people like me running multiple virtual domains, this means a seperate installation of mailman for each virtaul domain acount!! That's crazy.
I did come across some workarounds mentioned here:
http://www.zope.org/Members/bwarsaw/MailmanDesignNotes/VirtualHosting
But I have yet to try them, and don't really want to mess around with my active mailman installation.
What I would like is a proper way to handle virtual domains in the next release of Mailman!
Paul
What I would like is a proper way to handle virtual domains in the next release of Mailman!
Paul So, get to work and start coding. I find it amusing the amount of people that want this and want that and would like this and would like that, but really, know nothing about how to do it. But ooooh, if their features aren't instituted right away (and the way they want them to be), they throw a big ol cow.
I'm not saying that this is the case here, but if you want to see something done, then write up a patch, a snippet and have at it. Mailman should be a decent base to work from, but you have to configure some stuff yourself (welcome to the world of open source).
I'm not sure what you mean by "proper" virtual domain handling here. In the latest betas however, it IS possible to create multiple domain'ed lists off of one simple server without having multiple installs of mailman.
Remember, as well, that YOUR version of proper may not = MY version of proper, or the next linux tech's version of proper, so the ONLY way to get things 100% the way YOU want them to be is to create it yourself, or modify the existing base (which is absolutely great mind you).
On 11/2/02 10:58 AM, "Tom Whiting" <wolf@wolfstream.net> wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by "proper" virtual domain handling here. In the latest betas however, it IS possible to create multiple domain'ed lists off of one simple server without having multiple installs of mailman.
The list names still all have to be unique, though, don't they?
- Stoney
On 11/2/02 10:58 AM, "Tom Whiting" <wolf@wolfstream.net> wrote:
latest betas however, it IS possible to create multiple domain'ed lists off of one simple server without having multiple installs of mailman.
The list names still all have to be unique, though, don't they?
- Stoney
I presume not. I'll check it out and see. Paul
"SB" == Stonewall Ballard <sb.list@sb.org> writes:
>> I'm not sure what you mean by "proper" virtual domain handling
>> here. In the latest betas however, it IS possible to create
>> multiple domain'ed lists off of one simple server without
>> having multiple installs of mailman.
SB> The list names still all have to be unique, though, don't
SB> they?Yes, and this will be fixed after MM2.1.
For people who want to look at this in more details, take a look at the Site.py module. It's not perfect and may not be complete, but it's the best that's currently available for MM2.1.
-Barry
So, get to work and start coding. I find it amusing the amount of people that want this and want that and would like this and would like that, but really,
All I am saying is that big hosting companies need this feature in order to do wide scale deployements of mailman. It's in the interests of the project that this feature is worked on.
I have no problem editing the source to get it to do what I want. I have done this numerous times with other packages. However python is not a language I know well, and so any mailman patch from me is likely to be ugly.
latest betas however, it IS possible to create multiple domain'ed lists off of one simple server without having multiple installs of mailman.
Great. I'll install that and have a play around with it.
Thanks
Paul
"PR" == Paul Reilly <pareilly@tcd.ie> writes:
>> So, get to work and start coding. I find it amusing the amount
>> of people that want this and want that and would like this and
>> would like that, but really,
PR> All I am saying is that big hosting companies need this
PR> feature in order to do wide scale deployements of
PR> mailman. It's in the interests of the project that this
PR> feature is worked on.If it's really that important, then the big hosting companies should be happy to hear that Zope Corporation has a successful history of entering into targeted development contracts for Mailman features.
IOW, if someone were to /fund/ me to do the work, and is willing to open source the results, it would get a much higher priority.
Hacking code isn't the only way to contribute to the project <wink>.
-Barry
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Paul Reilly wrote:
Exactly. For people like me running multiple virtual domains, this means a seperate installation of mailman for each virtaul domain acount!! That's crazy.
I did come across some workarounds mentioned here:
http://www.zope.org/Members/bwarsaw/MailmanDesignNotes/VirtualHosting
But I have yet to try them, and don't really want to mess around with my active mailman installation.
What I would like is a proper way to handle virtual domains in the next release of Mailman!
How about handling your virtual domains at the MTA level via aliasing, and not at your listmanager level? While this would mean that you couldn't have two lists with exactly the same name, you can achieve nearly the same level of performance with things like explicit reply-to settings/etc.
-CA
-----Original Message-----
It is possible with multiple installations of MM, but I think the original sender (and me) wants to know how this could be done with one installation. Is there a cook book for this problem?
MANY thanx for any hints, ++ralph
Hi Ralph, it is very possible (and do'able) with only 1 MM installation. I currently do it for 3 domains with MM 2.0.11, Apache 1.37, and Sendmail 8.12. You have to setup Apache and Sendmail for virtual domains. Each MM list needs to be setup with the correct Base URL, etc.
Hints: Search on Google for "Apache Virtual Domains" and "Sendmail Virtual Domains". ;)
-Jim P.
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