Thank you.

I'm running on linux (on this server, an older SuSE version). Mailman 2.1.4, Python 2.3, the mta is courier.

I've been using mailman for quite some time and it has always seemed to work without problems.

But I'm having trouble with messages being sent to the list owner (administrator) for a moderated list. The error I see in the log is

SMTP session failure: 517, Syntax error. msgid: <...>

So for example I have a list called "ricardo1", and it is configured as moderated. When I send an email to the list, it is forwarded on to the list administrator.

In mailman's logs, I see:

---- smtp log ------ Jun 01 07:02:56 2005 (22702) mailman.484.1117634575.22700.ricardo1@lists.americasnet.com smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.154 seconds Jun 01 07:03:15 2005 (22702) mailman.484.1117634575.22700.ricardo1@lists.americasnet.com smtp for 2 recips, completed in 16.207 seconds

---- smtp-failure log ---- Jun 01 07:03:06 2005 (22702) SMTP session failure: 517, Syntax error., msgid: mailman.484.1117634575.22700.ricardo1@lists.americasnet.com Jun 01 07:03:15 2005 (22702) SMTP session failure: 517, Syntax error., msgid: mailman.484.1117634575.22700.ricardo1@lists.americasnet.com

I also tested this by sending a message directly to the list owner (ricardo1-owner@lists.americasnet.com)

and I get the exact same error...

The list is configured with the owner/administrator as my own email, ricardo@americasnet.com

Is there a way I can manually run the mailman program with debug to try and see what's going on in the smtp session ?

Thanks Ricardo

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sythos" sythos@sythos.net To: "Ricardo Kleemann" ricardo@americasnet.com Cc: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] (re-post) smtp failures, please help

On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 06:44:14AM -0700, Ricardo Kleemann wrote:

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I posted this yesterday but I have received no replies... can someone

help

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me out?

You must supply more info... OS? Mailman version? Distro? Python version? MTA (name and version)?

Regards

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Thanks for the pointers, Mark.

Is it only the one list, or is it all moderated lists?

Well I reconfigured the list so that members are not moderated, just to test... no difference.

Now I'm actually just simply sending email directly to the -owner address, and I continue to get this syntax error.

If only the one, I suspect some issue with the ricardo1-owner@lists.americasnet.com alias in courier?

Well, the fact that the mailman log is reporting an error is in itself an indication that the alias is piping the message to mailman. This is what the alias is doing: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner ricardo1"

so mailman processes the message, and then reports the syntax error.

What happens to -owner mail for other, non-moderated lists?

I just tried sending to another list "test", to test-owner... and to my surprise, it fails with the same error! :-/ This means to me that all my lists are failing for the -owner address.

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Is there a way I can manually run the mailman program with debug to try

and

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see what's going on in the smtp session ?

See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-May/044742.html for a way to replicate Mailman's sending of mail. Try using

rcpts = ['ricardo1-owner@lists.americasnet.com']

in the script in that post, but I doubt you'll get much more information than you already get.

Thanks... but does mailman really insert the -owner address in that transaction, or does it already lookup who the owner is for the list and insert that address?

Anyone else have any ideas?

Ricardo