Re: [Mailman-Users] [discuss] configuration of the maillist server from 1net.org
Dear friends,
i send you a small communication with google. This technican people are realy very stupid. I wait for a reply to my more concrete question. But i think, Google don't like this public disgracing.
many greetings, willi Panama City
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [Gmail Forum] Not receiving email from groups Datum: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 11:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Von: Willi übelherr An: gmail@googleproductforums.com
Dear friends,
the gmail-server blocked email to my account. Not as spam. No, as any else.
If i send a mail to a maillistserver for distribution, i want to receive this mail from the listserver. But google stopped this mail without my request and without any information to me.
In the mailman-configuration i can set this option. But then, it have to work transparently and never i accept any hidden mail deleting.
many greetings, willi Panama City
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [Gmail Forum] Re: Not receiving email from groups Datum: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Von: bkennelly via Gmail Help Forum
Gmail only stores one copy of each message in your account. If you sent the message, you already have a copy and the incoming copy is recognised as a duplicate.
If your mailing list software has the option to change the Message-ID when re-sending messages, Gmail will recognise the returning message as a new version and you will get it in your Inbox.
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [Gmail Forum] Re: Not receiving email from groups Datum: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 21:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Von: Willi übelherr via Gmail Help Forum
Dear bkennelly,
i thought, that gmail use the message-id for compare. But the mail i send is different to the mail i receive. The mailheader is extended. And this information is always necessary for me.
To change the message-id is a bad way because the message-id are used for thread ordering in the mail directory. And many internal functions are working based on the message-id.
My primary question goes to the possibility, how i can define or enable/disable this delete function in this account.
many greetings, willi Panama City
Hello Willi On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:51 PM, willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr@gmail.com> wrote:
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [Gmail Forum] Re: Not receiving email from groups Datum: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Von: bkennelly via Gmail Help Forum
Gmail only stores one copy of each message in your account. If you sent the message, you already have a copy and the incoming copy is recognised as a duplicate.
And this response they gave you was not sufficient but only seem stupid to you....interesting!
Cheers!
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Will gmail recognise the message as a duplicate even if the list has added a prefix to the subject line, and a footer?
Peter Shute
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On 23 Jun 2014, at 3:32 am, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Willi On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:51 PM, willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr@gmail.com> wrote:
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [Gmail Forum] Re: Not receiving email from groups Datum: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Von: bkennelly via Gmail Help Forum
Gmail only stores one copy of each message in your account. If you sent the message, you already have a copy and the incoming copy is recognised as a duplicate.
And this response they gave you was not sufficient but only seem stupid to you....interesting!
Cheers!
*Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng> Mobile: +2348035233535**alt email: <http://goog_1872880453>seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng <seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng>*
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On 06/22/2014 10:52 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
Will gmail recognise the message as a duplicate even if the list has added a prefix to the subject line, and a footer?
Yes, it uses (I think) only Message-ID. That's the problem. You never can see the decorated message from the list.
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On 6/22/14, 1:52 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
Will gmail recognise the message as a duplicate even if the list has added a prefix to the subject line, and a footer?
Peter Shute
To my knowledge, the ONE thing that gmail checks is the Message-ID: header, if that matches, it is a duplicate and dropped. It is not checking for the messages being "identical", it is detecting "duplicates", as defined by the RFCs for Email (if two messages are different, they must have different Message-ID:s).
-- Richard Damon
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