mail server cannot communicate with mailman
Hi all, I am trying for some days now to setup mailman in debian but i am running to the following problem: Although mailman setup seems fine and the mail server (Exim or Postfix) can send mail to any address, mailman and the mail server cannot communicate. Every time i try to post a message to a list, or send a password reminder from mailman etc. the mails never reach their destination, and usually i get an error after some time. As i mention above i tried both Exim and Postfix and ran into the same problem. I have installed mailman from the repositories and as a web server i use apache 2. I would appreciate any suggestions on the problem. Thanks in advance, George
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 05:18:58PM +0200, George Argyros wrote:
I am trying for some days now to setup mailman in debian but i am running to the following problem: Although mailman setup seems fine and the mail server (Exim or Postfix) can send mail to any address, mailman and the mail server cannot communicate. Every time i try to post a message to a list, or send a password reminder from mailman etc. the mails never reach their destination, and usually i get an error after some time.
Having that error would be quite useful: http://exim.org/howto/mailman21.html#lisver is quite useful for Exim.
Certainly for Exim, Exim needs some stanzas for Mailman, have you done something along the lines of http://exim.org/howto/mailman21.html ?
-- ``We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.'' (Booker T. Washington)
Adam McGreggor wrote:
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 05:18:58PM +0200, George Argyros wrote:
I am trying for some days now to setup mailman in debian but i am running to the following problem: Although mailman setup seems fine and the mail server (Exim or Postfix) can send mail to any address, mailman and the mail server cannot communicate. Every time i try to post a message to a list, or send a password reminder from mailman etc. the mails never reach their destination, and usually i get an error after some time.
Having that error would be quite useful: http://exim.org/howto/mailman21.html#lisver is quite useful for Exim.
Also, what is in Mailman's smtp and smtp-failure logs and Exim's exim_main.log?
Certainly for Exim, Exim needs some stanzas for Mailman, have you done something along the lines of http://exim.org/howto/mailman21.html ?
While this how-to is important, it is only for delivery to Mailman. It doesn't affect delivery of outbound mail from Mailman.
However, that could be the problem here in that posts are not delivered to Mailman. If other messages from Mailman are delivered, e.g. subscription confirmation requests or list welcome messages, then the problem is likely in delivery to Mailman and that how-to is very relevant.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Thank you for your answers. I managed to make the outgoing mail of mailman to work with Exim. Now password reminders, register confirmations etc are sended normally from mailman. However the incoming mails still cannot reach any mailing list, although this time, the mail seems to be accepted by the Exim. Additionally in the Exim mainlog i get the following error entry: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner foofoo <foofoo-owner@**********> R=system_aliases defer (-30): pipe_transport unset in system_aliases router I' ve searched a bit in the internet, and i saw that this is a relatively common error, however i didn't find any solutions.
In order to configure exim to work with mailman i followed the instructions in the file /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Exim4.Debian.
George
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
Adam McGreggor wrote:
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 05:18:58PM +0200, George Argyros wrote:
I am trying for some days now to setup mailman in debian but i am running to the following problem: Although mailman setup seems fine and the mail server (Exim or Postfix) can send mail to any address, mailman and the mail server cannot communicate. Every time i try to post a message to a list, or send a password reminder from mailman etc. the mails never reach their destination, and usually i get an error after some time.
Having that error would be quite useful: http://exim.org/howto/mailman21.html#lisver is quite useful for Exim.
Also, what is in Mailman's smtp and smtp-failure logs and Exim's exim_main.log?
Certainly for Exim, Exim needs some stanzas for Mailman, have you done something along the lines of http://exim.org/howto/mailman21.html ?
While this how-to is important, it is only for delivery to Mailman. It doesn't affect delivery of outbound mail from Mailman.
However, that could be the problem here in that posts are not delivered to Mailman. If other messages from Mailman are delivered, e.g. subscription confirmation requests or list welcome messages, then the problem is likely in delivery to Mailman and that how-to is very relevant.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
George Argyros wrote:
However the incoming mails still cannot reach any mailing list, although this time, the mail seems to be accepted by the Exim. Additionally in the Exim mainlog i get the following error entry: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner foofoo <foofoo-owner@**********> R=3Dsystem_aliases defer (-30): pipe_transport unset in system_aliases router I' ve searched a bit in the internet, and i saw that this is a relatively common error, however i didn't find any solutions.
It appears that you are using aliases to deliver from Exim to Mailman. While you can do this, it is by far preferable to set up Exim to deliver programmatically as described at http://exim.org/howto/mailman21.html.
In order to configure exim to work with mailman i followed the instructions in the file /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Exim4.Debian.
I am unfamiliar with that document, but if it discusses setting up a mailman router and transport as in http://exim.org/howto/mailman21.html, then your problem is that your system_aliases router precedes your mailman router and you have mailman aliases installed. If you are deliverian with a mailman router, you should not have any mailman aliases and you should have
MTA = None
in mm_cfg.py so Mailman doesn't bug you about aliases when you create lists.
If you intend to deliver to Mailman using aliases, you need to be sure your system_aliases: router definition includes "pipe_transport = address_pipe" and an appropriate group= for mailman.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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