incorrect spam labelling

Not sure if this is a mailman issue, but… Occasionally as moderator I see messages in which "***SPAM*** “ has been prepended to the subject line. The messages are not spam. I do not want to send them out to the list like that but cannot edit the subject line. Is there anything I can do? -Andrew

When a subject is not relevant to the body of the message or missing, the moderator will re-post with a corrected subject. At the top of that re-post, he includes the reason. That reminds other members to pay attention to the subject field when posting. Terry Earley On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:16 AM editor@visionscience.com < editor@visionscience.com> wrote:
Not sure if this is a mailman issue, but…
Occasionally as moderator I see messages in which "***SPAM*** “ has been prepended to the subject line. The messages are not spam. I do not want to send them out to the list like that but cannot edit the subject line. Is there anything I can do?
-Andrew
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editor@visionscience.com writes:
Not sure if this is a mailman issue, but…
It's not, although possibly Mailman can help mitigate it.
Occasionally as moderator I see messages in which "***SPAM*** “ has been prepended to the subject line. The messages are not spam. I do not want to send them out to the list like that but cannot edit the subject line. Is there anything I can do?
Not with only moderator privileges. Stock Mailman doesn't modify messages in the moderation queue in that way. So the spam label has been attached by some other application, or by modifying Mailman to call a spam checker. You may be able to get some help from your mail administrator, who can tune the spam checker to make fewer errors, or whitelist your subscribers, or something along those lines. If you can configure and add code to the Mailman system, it would be possible to add code to remove the offending text from the Subject automatically. (You don't have to modify any of the stock Mailman code, so in that sense this is "safe".) There may be other indications of "spamminess" that should be removed as well, hidden in the header. If you can configure/add code to Mailman and want help with the programming, please send a copy of the header portion of such a post so we can see all of the the potential spamminess indicators. Steve -- Associate Professor Division of Policy and Planning Science http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/ Faculty of Systems and Information Email: turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tel: 029-853-5175 Tennodai 1-1-1, Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN

Not sure if this is a mailman issue, but…
Occasionally as moderator I see messages in which "***SPAM*** “ has been prepended to the subject line. The messages are not spam. I do not want to send them out to the list like that but cannot edit the subject line. Is there anything I can do?
-Andrew
That is not Mailman. It is most likely coming from Spamassassin. Is your mailman list on a cPanel server? Brian Carpenter Owner Now offering Mailman 3 list hosting! https://mailman3host.com

On 1/31/19 7:04 AM, editor@visionscience.com wrote:
Not sure if this is a mailman issue, but…
Occasionally as moderator I see messages in which "***SPAM*** “ has been prepended to the subject line. The messages are not spam. I do not want to send them out to the list like that but cannot edit the subject line. Is there anything I can do?
Yes, but it's cumbersome, particularly if you don't have good tools, but here's a way. In the admindb interface discard the held message, but also check the 'Forward messages (individually) to:' box and enter your own address, or if you received an immediate notification of the held message that includes the message, you can skip the forward. Now, one way or the other, you have an email containing a copy of the message. Save that email or open it in a way that you can view the raw message. From that raw message, extract (edit out other parts or copy/paste) the raw original message, and then edit that to 'fix' the subject and also remove certain problem headers. For example, if the Mailman server MTA is Postfix, you need to remove the 'Delivered-To: <list address>' header or Postfix won't deliver this one to the list. I typically remove the Return-Path:, X-Original-To: and Delivered-To: headers from the top of the message. Now you resend that message to the list. If you have a 'sendmail' command on your workstation you can just do sendmail -f listname-bounces@list.domain listname@list.domain < file where 'file' contains the edited message. If you don't have 'sendmail', some MUAs will allow you to open the message and resend or 'bounce' it back to the list. Also, there is a very old patch at <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/557995> which enables editing the headers and message body directly in the admindb interface. If you have the ability to patch Mailman, this may work for you. I have updated the patch so it applies cleanly to current Mailman, but it is not tested. -- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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Brian Carpenter
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Stephen J. Turnbull
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Terry Earley