Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
Thanks for telling me about mailmanhost.com brian, My mailing lists are used for my wife and me so we can get emails from the school and kids activities with a single parents@ address, very low volume. Similar for utility bills@ address. So such a solution is overkill.
I see my original picture showing my settings was excluded, here it is: https://snipboard.io/hxpWac.jpg
Mark, the kids clubs and utility billing companies mostly send HTML emails and.or pdf newsletters.
I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help? There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the options, etc.
It's surprising to me that mailman has not considered this simple use-case and as a result, it's over-engineered for this use case. Most people think it should not accumulate emails with all these options set and the solution is to ask one's isp to clear out space every so often. For there to be no option that 100% stops accumulation at this stage of the products life is a little bizarre and silly imho.
Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list?
Maybe there is a CPanel option to do this other than mailing lists, I have not found it. Forwarders do not alow 1 address to be forwarded to 2 as far as I can see.
As always, thanks for yer paitence.
Tom.
Frankly, using ANY mailing list to do this simple task is overkill.
You can have gmail filter and forward these emails instead. They go to *your* gmail account, the filter matches it and forwards it to your wife's email account.
You can set up a single filter based on a "TO" address. This is the address that you give to the schools, etc. This email address could be boardtc+wife@gmail.com as anything after + in a gmail account is automatically sent to the username before the +. Set the filter to automatically forward anything to that address and you're good to go.
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:25 AM Tom Corcoran boardtc@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for telling me about mailmanhost.com brian, My mailing lists are used for my wife and me so we can get emails from the school and kids activities with a single parents@ address, very low volume. Similar for utility bills@ address. So such a solution is overkill.
I see my original picture showing my settings was excluded, here it is: https://snipboard.io/hxpWac.jpg
Mark, the kids clubs and utility billing companies mostly send HTML emails and.or pdf newsletters.
I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help? There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the options, etc.
It's surprising to me that mailman has not considered this simple use-case and as a result, it's over-engineered for this use case. Most people think it should not accumulate emails with all these options set and the solution is to ask one's isp to clear out space every so often. For there to be no option that 100% stops accumulation at this stage of the products life is a little bizarre and silly imho.
Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list?
Maybe there is a CPanel option to do this other than mailing lists, I have not found it. Forwarders do not alow 1 address to be forwarded to 2 as far as I can see.
As always, thanks for yer paitence.
Tom.
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On 11/9/20 9:22 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote:
I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help? There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the options, etc.
It helps because if the list is digestable, the plain text digest is created and non-plain text attachments are scrubbed and stored in the archive even if there are no digest recipients. The way to avoid this scrubbing and storing aside of attachments from the digest is to set Digest options -> digestible to No. If the list is not digestable, digests won't be created.
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 04:40, Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net wrote:
On 11/9/20 9:22 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote:
I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help? There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the options, etc.
It helps because if the list is digestable, the plain text digest is created and non-plain text attachments are scrubbed and stored in the archive even if there are no digest recipients. The way to avoid this scrubbing and storing aside of attachments from the digest is to set Digest options -> digestible to No. If the list is not digestable, digests won't be created.
Makes sense, mine was set to True though I never used digests.
On 11/9/20 9:22 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote:
Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list?
As I indicate in my prior replies, just set
Non-digest options -> scrub_nondigest = No Digest options -> digestable = No Archiving Options -> archive = No
and nothing will be stored in the archive.
-- Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 04:47, Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net wrote:
On 11/9/20 9:22 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote:
Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list?
As I indicate in my prior replies, just set
Non-digest options -> scrub_nondigest = No Digest options -> digestable = No Archiving Options -> archive = No
and nothing will be stored in the archive.
This sounds great, thanks.
The digest option is the one I had not set. Going into Non-digest the first option "Can subscribers choose to receive mail immediately, rather than in batched digests" is turned on by default but I have the lower scrub option set to No.
If my isp will clear them one last time that should be the end of it then.
Hi again Tom,
"If my isp will clear them one last time that should be the end of it then."
If they won't do it, then I guess you'll have to delete and recreate the whole mailing list. (Unless the experts have a simpler way which can be performed on cPanel hosts.)
But see my other post about using multiple forwards instead of a list.
Tel2
Hi Tom,
"Maybe there is a CPanel option to do this other than mailing lists, I have not found it. Forwarders do not alow 1 address to be forwarded to 2 as far as I can see."
I have a cPanel account with webhostingbuzz.com and I have 2 forwarders set up so that anything sent to both@mydomain.com goes to me@mydomain.com and mywife@mydomain.com. What's stopping you from doing that?
Tel2
Hi Tel2
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 21:04, anon_777@hotmail.com wrote:
I have a cPanel account with webhostingbuzz.com and I have 2 forwarders set up so that anything sent to both@mydomain.com goes to me@mydomain.com and mywife@mydomain.com. What's stopping you from doing that?
Fantastic, great to hear, thanks. In forwarders I added an non existant email test@mydomain.com forwarding to my regaular email address. And a seperate forwarder from test@mydomain.com to my wife's. An hour later I have not got this email. I don't think the "address to forward" has to be setup as an email address separately - I already have a bunch of aliases of my own address setup. That said I'm unsure why I have not got the email sent to test....
Tom.
On 11/10/20 5:23 PM, Tom Corcoran wrote:
Fantastic, great to hear, thanks. In forwarders I added an non existant emailtest@mydomain.com forwarding to my regaular email address. And a seperate forwarder fromtest@mydomain.com to my wife's. An hour later I have not got this email. I don't think the "address to forward" has to be setup as an email address separately - I already have a bunch of aliases of my own address setup. That said I'm unsure why I have not got the email sent to test.... You are correct. A forwarder does not need a corresponding email account. To see what happened to your test email, try using the Track Delivery tool within the Email section of cPanel.
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 22:36, Brian Carpenter brian_carpenter@emwd.com wrote:
You are correct. A forwarder does not need a corresponding email account. To see what happened to your test email, try using the Track Delivery tool within the Email section of cPanel.
Thanks, Brian, I never knew about hat tool, that will come in handy. The emails turned up in my box overnight with the same arrival time as sent time even though they did not show for at least up to an hour initially when I was refreshing webmail.
Hello Tom Corcoran. On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 22:23:45 +0000, you wrote:
I have a cPanel account with webhostingbuzz.com and I have 2 forwarders set up so that anything sent to both@mydomain.com goes to me@mydomain.com and mywife@mydomain.com. What's stopping you from doing that?
Fantastic, great to hear, thanks. In forwarders I added an non existant email test@mydomain.com forwarding to my regaular email address. And a seperate forwarder from test@mydomain.com to my wife's. An hour later I have not got this email. I don't think the "address to forward" has to be setup as an email address separately
No, it does not. Just send a message to test@mydomain.com. If the end destinations of the forwarder(s) exist, the message will be sent to all of them if addressed to test@mydomain.com.
I have several such forwarders to several addresses. They all work great.
Christian
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